Fake cards please look at

[x2drich2000]

Before outing the guy, how were these advertised? What condition did he say they were in? Did he provide scans? Was the possibiility of trimming mentioned? What was his reaction to your belief that the cards were fake? What were the terms of your trade? Was he to send first and upon your approval you would mail? Were you both to mail at the same time?

From what everyone else has mentioned so far it seems the general thought, contrary to your initial post, is that they are real but trimmed. Your initial post suggests you only thought the cards were fake, but mentioned nothing of being trimmed. I'm not trying to discredit you or your thoughts, just giving you something to consider. Tarnishing someone reputation without providing all the details in my opinion is never a good thing. Personally, I can't tell from these pictures if they're real or not, but I think it's highly likely that they are at least trimmed.

DJ

[bn2cardz]

I will say that if the blur I see isn't the out of focus camera these are definitely fake. The trim could be used to cut off the excess white and make sure the cards line up better when gluing the front and back together. Does the border have print dots? It shouldn't.

A scan may be more telling then a photo through plastic.

[ZachS]

The colors look "off" to me... most noticeably the red text on the yellow background looks too fuzzy. The coloring on the back looks way too dark.

As others have already mentioned they are definitely trimmed.

[Nappy1525]

[QUOTE=bn2cardz;1304653]I will say that if the blur I see isn't the out of focus camera these are definitely fake.

That is as in focus as I could get I don't have a scanner so I cannot scan but these cards are so blurry and I know 100% that these are fake. The blur you see is 100 times worse in person

[Nappy1525]

Leon has been notified but has not gotten back to me. I said I would send him the cards. And I haven't been on the board too long and I would not like to tell who it is because I don't know if that's a rule that you have to keep the name private. If It is not a rule and everyone would like to know then I would be happy to say who it was. Thank you for everyone's feed back and I'm sorry that you can't see what I'm seeing. The photo isn't near as bad as the actually card. Someone had to have just copied and pasted the two sides on a piece of card board for all I can see.

[Nappy1525]

I missed David's post on saying it's okay to tell. Now to this person I'm sorry I would love to keep your name private but multiple people have asked and I would just like to stay on the board because I've had a lot of fun and gotten some good cards out of it. Joepa is the person who sent me those cards

[39special]

Did you tell joepa you thought they were fake?I have dealt with him in the past and he always sent first so I could check them first.I never had a problem.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Nappy1525

Joepa is the person who sent me those cards

Thanks for posting the name. I've never dealt with Joepa, but I know of at least two other forum members that have had problems with his deals. I'm not going to bring those up, but you can find them via search. You're now the third member I know that's had a bad deal with him. As I mentioned in my earlier post, the name is important so other members can decide if they want to do business with him or not. I don't think I'll be doing any business with him in the future, others can decide for themselves. Sorry to hear about your situation, but at least you weren't out anything (other than a little time). Just send the cards back and chalk it up as a lesson learned.

[rsdill2]

god bless

[ZachS]

Originally Posted by Nappy1525

Someone had to have just copied and pasted the two sides on a piece of card board for all I can see.

So what was the trade going to be?

[Nappy1525]

Originally Posted by x2drich2000

Before outing the guy, how were these advertised? What condition did he say they were in? Did he provide scans? Was the possibiility of trimming mentioned? What was his reaction to your belief that the cards were fake? What were the terms of your trade? Was he to send first and upon your approval you would mail? Were you both to mail at the same time?

From what everyone else has mentioned so far it seems the general thought, contrary to your initial post, is that they are real but trimmed. Your initial post suggests you only thought the cards were fake, but mentioned nothing of being trimmed. I'm not trying to discredit you or your thoughts, just giving you something to consider. Tarnishing someone reputation without providing all the details in my opinion is never a good thing. Personally, I can't tell from these pictures if they're real or not, but I think it's highly likely that they are at least trimmed.

DJ

First I just want to say I know for 100% fact they are fake and it's my fault for the bad picture. I've talked to Leon a few weeks back and he said If I can live without the deal then don't do the deal because he's had problems with him before. Now I was going to receive his cards first because he never sends me scans so I receive the cards and then I ship the day I receive. He said they were vg+ and never said anything about them being trimmed. He then said to me when I confronted him that just send them back I can't tell if cards are fake or not fake.