Let's All Remember Thurman Munson Today

[vthobby]

That's not the point. You missed it.

mike

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by vtgmsc

That's not the point. You missed it.

mike

I didn't miss it at all. Naming 6 people who should NOT be in the HOF does not mean someone comparable SHOULD be. It's ultimately an argument for infinite expansion.

[Econteachert205]

I think it's more an argument for a purely statistical based HOF which is why the women's golf hof is so interesting.

[Econteachert205]

Sandy Koufax is another interesting one to consider. Five dominant years, has to retire due to injury... Dizzy Dean as well. At this point the baseball HOF is so hopelessly subjective I don't think we can even split hairs.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Econteachert205

I think it's more an argument for a purely statistical based HOF which is why the women's golf hof is so interesting.

Yes, I would place more faith in stats than cronyism, misplaced nostalgia of veterans' committees, pro-Yankee bias (Joe Gordon!!), etc.

[vthobby]

Peter,

Amongst those HOF players I mentioned do you know how many MVPs they won?

That's right....exactly one less than Munson. He was one of the best at the game for a decade, he has stats that compare to about 10 others in the Hall. His life was cut short through no fault of his own. He deserves a plaque. Whether your expansion theory is justified is also not the point.

In the next thread you'll probably try to regale me with stories of Half-lifes in relation to the Hall. Hrumphh!

mike

[Peter_Spaeth]

He had four good years, maybe five. Let's not overstate the case here.

[vthobby]

Although I also like the '71 Munson, this was one of my favorite cards of the 1970s (and also the 1976 Yaz card).

Love this shot!

mike

PS....there....back on track!

[SAllen2556]

[sniffy5]

I love watching the points being made for Munson. I'm a Long Island strong Yankee fan and when I was watching a Gilligans Island rerun at 4:30pm and the scroll at the bottom of the screen told of Thurman's death, my 10 year old heart felt its first real loss. The guy was a true, loud, demonstrative leader (unlike Jeter). Munson did not just lead by example. He led by leading. But Peter is right, he is not a HOF'er. And neither is Mattingly, and Donnie is closer than Thurman. But that fact does nothing, absolutely nothing, to diminish either of their legacies in my mind. They will always be special. That's all that is important to me.

[FourStrikes]

Originally Posted by sniffy5

i love watching the points being made for munson. I'm a long island strong yankee fan and when i was watching a gilligans island rerun at 4:30pm and the scroll at the bottom of the screen told of thurman's death, my 10 year old heart felt its first real loss. The guy was a true, loud, demonstrative leader (unlike jeter). Munson did not just lead by example. He led by leading. But peter is right, he is not a hof'er. And neither is mattingly, and donnie is closer than thurman. But that fact does nothing, absolutely nothing, to diminish either of their legacies in my mind. They will always be special. That's all that is important to me.

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