Doug Allen to plead guilty.....

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by HRBAKER

As Doug (or anyone for that matter) surveys the landscape of this wondrous hobby, is there any reason for him to assume he won't be welcomed back with open arms as long as he can put his hands on the goods?

In a word, no.

An Al Qaeda fundraiser would set records in this hobby if it had the material.

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

An Al Qaeda fundraiser would set records in this hobby if it had the material.

And as long as they are willing to send anyone a free catalog or magnet.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

And as long as they are willing to send anyone a free catalog or magnet.

Received my catalog today. Thanks, Ayman!!

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

An Al Qaeda fundraiser would set records in this hobby if it had the material.

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

And as long as they are willing to send anyone a free catalog or magnet.

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Received my catalog today. Thanks, Ayman!!

[calvindog]

Doug and Bill will be on supervised release once they leave prison. If they violate their terms of release -- such as committing fraud -- they could be returned to prison. I'm certain they will be closely watched upon release. That at least one or both of them cooperated or attempted to cooperate against any and everyone in the hobby that they could have should at least give would be co-conspirators some pause upon dealing with them again, however. Because obviously anyone who would not only steal from their friends but them try to put their friends in prison is not someone most sane people would want to go near.

[keithsky]

Why did the guys running the National let these guys run a live auction let alone have a booth. I would be afraid the government would cease the stuff and the auction winners would never get there items. Totally wrong that these guys were even a loud in the building. Wish I was a fly on the wall at there booth to see what comments were said as people went by

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by keithsky

Why did the guys running the National let these guys run a live auction let alone have a booth. I would be afraid the government would cease the stuff and the auction winners would never get there items. Totally wrong that these guys were even a loud in the building. Wish I was a fly on the wall at there booth to see what comments were said as people went by

Had Doug pleaded at the time? If not, he is presumed innocent.

[WhenItWasAHobby]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Doug and Bill will be on supervised release once they leave prison. If they violate their terms of release -- such as committing fraud -- they could be returned to prison. I'm certain they will be closely watched upon release. That at least one or both of them cooperated or attempted to cooperate against any and everyone in the hobby that they could have should at least give would be co-conspirators some pause upon dealing with them again, however. Because obviously anyone who would not only steal from their friends but them try to put their friends in prison is not someone most sane people would want to go near.

Well, at least as a fall-back plan, they can always be PSA Authorized Dealers in 5 years.

[Exhibitman]

At the show Allen and Theotkis were chasing collectors like an ugly girl at a Sadie Hawkins dance. It was pretty funny to watch.