48 Leaf v. 48 Bowman

[jefferyepayne]

Sure. Here's one of the tough SPs.



jeff

[Myachelydra]

John,

I have always been a fan of the Bowman set based on its simplicity of design. For what they lack in pizzaz they make up with the information on the reverse...just more substance than Leaf.

I have put together sets or provided singles for a number of customers; there are definitely more Leaf collectors from my experience than Bowman.

[TanksAndSpartans]

Jeff, thanks for the scan.

John, thanks for jumping in. Not surprised to hear Leaf is more popular. Funny you mention the reverse - I really enjoy reading those too and while I do agree with you overall - there was one thing I liked about the Leaf write ups. The Trippi and Angsman cards actually mention the 47 title game. I'm sure the hype was nowhere near the modern day SB, but I thought it was kind of cool that Leaf felt it was important enough to mention.

[TanksAndSpartans]

If I take a shot at 48 Leaf, I think I better go low grade - http://www.milehighcardco.com/Exceed...-LOT35469.aspx

Final Price = $176,298.93

It wouldn't be fun to me not to collect it gradually anyway

[BigDaddyBowman]

If you decide to start building the 48 Bowman football set, I am selling off my collection and have about 2/3 of the set graded in SGC available. I would be willing to talk about the entire lot if you have interest. I have all the stars/HOFers and most of the commons. You can check out my 48 Bowman set on the SGC registry. Let me know if interested.

[Publius]

Originally Posted by DezHood

If I take a shot at 48 Leaf, I think I better go low grade - http://www.milehighcardco.com/Exceed...-LOT35469.aspx

Final Price = $176,298.93

It wouldn't be fun to me not to collect it gradually anyway

Best part? That 176k set was trimmed so badly it should have been bought by Joey O. Embarrassing

I collect both sets and love them both, like asking which kid you love more
The leafs are easy to trim and a flood of them have gotten by PSA so educate yourself before you collect

[TanksAndSpartans]

Hi Publius - I've seen your name on the PSA registry and I think someone said you host the gridiron greats podcast. Thanks for jumping in.

So how can you tell that recently auctioned set was trimmed? Can you show some examples from that set or others in PSA holders?

[Publius]

Originally Posted by DezHood

Hi Publius - I've seen your name on the PSA registry and I think someone said you host the gridiron greats podcast. Thanks for jumping in.

So how can you tell that recently auctioned set was trimmed? Can you show some examples from that set or others in PSA holders?

Dez, the ambassador of football Bob Swick hosted the show, I was the assistant / sidekick. . I had the best seat in the house talking football to the Captain every other week

Of all the sets, I think 48 Leaf is the one I've studied the most. My wife used to call it "catch and release". I would measure every raw and graded leaf card I got, track it on a spreadsheet. I began to see what the normal dimensions of the card was, as the measurements are all over the board, and what was considered trimmed. Soaked em, dried them in books, etc. after awhile you begin to be able to see what's trimmed or at least suspect at a glance, and the majority of the hi end cards in that 200k set are suspect.

I would want to see them in person and measure them, but they look bad, which is bad for the hobby as the people who know, don't bid on trimmed cards. The people who don't know, win them for a deal, VCP tracks it and it dilutes the value of the untrimmed cards

For all that I do know, there's a fella named Scott Alpaugh who teaches me something about the set every time we wrestle in a hotel lobby.