OT: Did Adam Dunn ruin his Hall chances

[vintagetoppsguy]

If he's so bad, why would a playoff contention team trade for him? Hmmm....

[quinnsryche]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

If he's so bad, why would a playoff contention team trade for him? Hmmm....

Because they are sinking like a rock and are desperate. Injuries and losing 4 in a row to the division leading team will make an organization do stupid things. This is #1 on that list.

[packs]

I don't know about that. To be fair, Dunn's .340 OBP will rank him at the top of the team. Crisp has a .346. Donaldson has a .349. Moss has the same .340.

I think he will add some value to the A's during their push.

[chaddurbin]

beltre is one of my favorite players...and on his current trajectory should be a hof'er. if he was white and in ny he would've locked it up already.

edit: and dunn...lol! i'm not gonna even.

[Jay Wolt]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

beltre is one of my favorite players...and on his current trajectory should be a hof'er. if he was white and in ny he would've locked it up already.

What does NY have to do w/ anything?
If there is such a NY bias, then why isn't Munson & Mattingly in?
And does anyone think Bernie Williams, Paul O'Neill, ANdy Pettite, Mike Mussina are shoe-ins?

[chaddurbin]

mussina should be in...

in what other cities would bernie and paul o'neill be even in the discussion??? i've never thought of them as legit cases.

pettite obviously no way (10 other ped guys would get in first before pettite).

[calvindog]

I don't think Mussina belongs or Mattingly/Munson. Dunn definitely not. McGriff was a far superior player, no? He had 6 top 10 MVP finishes compared to 0 for Dunn.

[packs]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

mussina should be in...

in what other cities would bernie and paul o'neill be even in the discussion??? i've never thought of them as legit cases.

Come on. Bernie Williams was a great centerfielder. Five seasons in which he drove in and scored 100 runs. Perennial all star switch hitter who played gold glove defense. Absolutely clutch when it mattered. Not a HOFer but you can't take anything away from him.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

beltre is one of my favorite players...and on his current trajectory should be a hof'er. if he was white and in ny he would've locked it up already.

It's got to be tough, thinking that way. I'm sure Beltre does not.

[Peter_Spaeth]

He had a very nice year in Boston, I didn't and don't understand why there wasn't more of an effort to keep him. He is only 35 and playing as well as ever, looking at his numbers he should be a pretty compelling case especially if he gets to 3000 hits.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

If he's so bad, why would a playoff contention team trade for him? Hmmm....

I think they were desperate to stop the bleeding from trading Cespedes - their offense has gone in the toilet for August. Dunn was probably their best option, and not a bad one - sometimes a player performs really well when initially in a new environment, and the playoff prospect might also get Dunn rev'd up.

[nolemmings]

I think they were desperate to stop the bleeding from trading Cespedes - their offense has gone in the toilet for August. Dunn was probably their best option, and not a bad one - sometimes a player performs really well when initially in a new environment, and the playoff prospect might also get Dunn rev'd up.

Agree completely. I see little downside to the move for Oakland, even if Dunn performs with Dunn-like numbers. Power off the bench or in the DH slot gives the team strategic options and makes the opponent have to prepare differently. I liken it somewhat to when the Twins picked up Don Baylor the last 20 games of the 1987 season. He contributed a little bit and then had a great post-season, especially World Series, even though his time in the Bigs was basically done. I don't know that Dunn brings the same intangibles as Baylor, but he could get energized for his final run, especially once the playoffs roll around. I wish him well, mostly because I'll be rooting for Oakland.

[UnVme7]

In regards to Adrian Beltre, and not to sidetrack this thread, but-- He is 25 hits away from 2,600, and 7 hr's away from 400.

Has anyone taken a look at the list of players with at least 2,500 hits and 400 hr's? He's definitely getting in. Pretty impressive list......

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Runscott

sometimes a player performs really well when initially in a new environment, and the playoff prospect might also get Dunn rev'd up.

I think so too, Scott.

BTW, since 2001 (his rookie year) only two other players have hit more home runs.

[PM770]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

If he's so bad, why would a playoff contention team trade for him? Hmmm....

August 31, 2014: Traded by the Chicago White Sox with cash to the Oakland Athletics (source: Baseball Reference)

Because the White Sox paid the A's to take him?

(I know they got a minor leaguer)