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Old 09-02-2014, 07:43 PM
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Above is referring to grammar, punctuation and spelling. David and Packs are otherwise tying my brain in a knot.

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Ozzie Smith is a no-doubt HOF'er in my book.

Also, if you look at just about every peripheral stat of Ozzie, who I believe is tremendously under-rated offensively, Ozzie did all the little things that Dunn was never capable of.

Comparing Ozzie to Dunn is a study of how valuable it is to actually put the ball in in play and not strikeout. He did all the little things managers love from players who don't have a lot of pop. He hit sacrifice flys, at a much higher rate then big ol' Adam Dunn, he Sacrificed tons of runners over, he Walked at a much higher rate then he struck out, He stole a ton of bases pretty efficiently.

....oh, and the glove.

If you are going to say a guy only did one thing good, it's a pretty good push if he's also in the argument for "the best ever" in that category. Adam Dunn is not in that argument, not "all-time" and not in his era.

Regardless of whatever arbitrary numbers he might have hit in a certain timespan.
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One other thing, I think that a guy's HOF stock rises if you were "iconic" in some way. Ozzie Smith and Reggie Jackson certainly fall into this category. Good, intermittently awesome players, with a GREAT set of intangible things that make them "more" than the average player. I think the HOF should have tons of room for guys like that...just IMHO.
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And another HR for Dunn. Just saying.
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And another HR for Dunn. Just saying.

Solo homer. They still lost. Sorry man!
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Adam's been "Dunn" for some time now. With or without 500 HR, he would not have been a HOF'er. See Fred McGriff!

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That shot yesterday was a moon shot, and off Felix. I don't think I've ever watched Dunn swing up to that point - he doesn't get cheated.

Root sports showed a Dunn interview after the game, where he talked about hitting against Felix. Not sure if it was filmed before or after, but I really liked the guy - very, very personable. I hope this resurrects his career and he makes the HOF.
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