Don't be surprised if..... (HOF debate!)

[UnVme7]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

If the voters keep Bonds out, I would hope they don't look the other way on Pudge and Piazza.

and, altho we'll never know and he'll always deny it, I have always suspected Kent may have used.

I hear ya. As for steroids with those 3, Piazza is on the top of the list for me, then Pudge, then Kent. I personally think Kent is clean, just do, but I understand what you mean. Do I think Pudge did? Probably, but there isn't much physical evidence that proves this. Do I think Piazza did? Yep, but suspicion isn't good enough for me, nor is it fair to the player.

[chris6net]

Gil Hodges

[jimivintage]

Originally Posted by chris6net

Gil Hodges

I won't necessarily disagree with you on whether he deserves to get in, but if he hasn't yet, and he hasn't played since the '60s....he ain't getting' in. The Veteran's Committee has kept him off all these years, so I can't see that they'd all of a sudden think he is one.

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by UnVme7

I hear ya. As for steroids with those 3, Piazza is on the top of the list for me, then Pudge, then Kent. I personally think Kent is clean, just do, but I understand what you mean. Do I think Pudge did? Probably, but there isn't much physical evidence that proves this. Do I think Piazza did? Yep, but suspicion isn't good enough for me, nor is it fair to the player.

Agreed....suspicion isn't fair.....but not everyone had BOTH overzealous Feds AND two bank rolled newspaper guys after them. If you never really looked, how can you say, one way or another?

Bonds was my guy...I won't deny he used and I won't call it a "witch hunt"...but I will say no other player has had a tenth of the resources directed at him that Bonds did. OK....I'll get off my soapbox.

Carry on.

[sago]

Of those already listed, Griffey, Johnson, and Vlad. The Mets fan in me cannot say Chipper Jones, even though he probably deserves it.