An evidence based discussion about the players who've been overlooked for Cooperstown

[clydepepper]

Those are great, Frank!


Bill- I wonder how much of an effect having Brooks to his right had on Belanger...did he feel like he could take chances that other might not? What kind of effect did Belanger have on Brooks' attitude and positioning?

I can't think of another SS-3B combo who were anywhere near them defensively. It just had to help knowing that you had someone next to you like that.

Along with Blair in CF, Boog must have gotten the lion's share of Boots.

[Davino]

interesting discussion.

[the 'stache]

Imagine coming to the plate, and knowing that the Orioles had Gold Glovers at third, short, second-Davey Johnson then Bobby Grich, center and on the mound, if it was Palmer. You'd better pull that ball to the right or hit it out of the park, because if the ball goes anywhere else, it's going to be an out.

I think that Belanger, knowing he had the human vacuum to his right, was able to take chances he normally wouldn't dream of taking.

As far as a shortstop-third base combo, maybe Mike Schmidt and Larry Bowa. Add in Manny Trillo at second, and that's a pretty tight infield. Anybody with Schmidt was going to be good though, or at least better because of him.

Originally Posted by clydepepper

Those are great, Frank!


Bill- I wonder how much of an effect having Brooks to his right had on Belanger...did he feel like he could take chances that other might not? What kind of effect did Belanger have on Brooks' attitude and positioning?

I can't think of another SS-3B combo who were anywhere near them defensively. It just had to help knowing that you had someone next to you like that.

Along with Blair in CF, Boog must have gotten the lion's share of Boots.

[frankbmd]

In 1971 the Orioles won and were tenth in the AL in Double Plays.

Tinker to Evers to Chance were not an outstanding double play combo either statistically.

I like numbers to be sure
Math is simple and clearly pure
But twisted stats can mislead
Best to remember when you read
That figures lie and liars figure

The Hall of Fame is clearly flawed
Including chums not to be awed
Accept the Hall for what it is
As PeeWee said to ol' Diz
"It's a great day for baseball"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/120433379

Watch Diz struggle saying Amalfitano.

And listen as Diz sings his favorite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Q0X_26gcQs

[KCRfan1]

Frank Burkett is quite the poet
By reading his words we would all know it
It's a very good time
As we read Franks rhymes
And we look forward to the next time he posts it.

[clydepepper]

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Nah, I can't compete with Frank

[Jayworld]

How about Gene Tenace?

[earlywynnfan]

Very well done, Bill! (Just what I expected!)

Long ago I read something comparing Minoso's stats to Jackie's. They were extremely similar. Not saying Minnie put up with as much crap as Jackie (nobody did,) but the numbers were impressive.

Ken