An evidence based discussion about the players who've been overlooked for Cooperstown

clydepepper · #1 09-09-2014, 08:26 AM

There once was a man from Nantucket,...

Nah, I can't compete with Frank

Jayworld · #2 09-09-2014, 12:46 PM

How about Gene Tenace?

earlywynnfan · #3 09-09-2014, 04:36 PM

Very well done, Bill! (Just what I expected!)

Long ago I read something comparing Minoso's stats to Jackie's. They were extremely similar. Not saying Minnie put up with as much crap as Jackie (nobody did,) but the numbers were impressive.

Ken

the 'stache · #4 09-10-2014, 12:30 AM

Thank you, Ken.

I'll get back to this in a bit. Right now, however, I'm not feeling much like talking baseball. My Brewers are having one of the all-time worst collapses in baseball history. They were the first team in baseball to 50 wins. They were 50-32. Soon after they reached 19 games above .500, and if I recall correctly, they had a 6.5 game lead in the NL Central, which was the toughest division in baseball at that point with 4 teams over .500.

Since then, they have gone 24-39. They have lost 13 of their last 14 games, an are now 3 games above .500.

In the last 14 games, we have been outscored 86-35. We are allowing 6.14 runs per game, while scoring 2.5 a game.

clydepepper · #5 09-10-2014, 12:02 PM

Is it me or is this the streakiest season ever? I cannot remember so many teams with 5+ winning and losing streaks. I think it speaks volumes of the lack of starting pitching depth. When the Braves had three aces, long losing streaks were very rare, but now it's hard to find that kind of staff.

Beatles Guy · #6 09-10-2014, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the 'stache

Thank you, Ken.

I'll get back to this in a bit. Right now, however, I'm not feeling much like talking baseball. My Brewers are having one of the all-time worst collapses in baseball history. They were the first team in baseball to 50 wins. They were 50-32. Soon after they reached 19 games above .500, and if I recall correctly, they had a 6.5 game lead in the NL Central, which was the toughest division in baseball at that point with 4 teams over .500.

Since then, they have gone 24-39. They have lost 13 of their last 14 games, an are now 3 games above .500.

In the last 14 games, we have been outscored 86-35. We are allowing 6.14 runs per game, while scoring 2.5 a game.

On behalf of Cardinals fans everywhere, we thank you for your collapse

barrysloate · #7 09-10-2014, 03:45 PM

When the Giants were 42-21 they easily had the best record in the majors. Then they went through two months of horrible baseball, losing to everyone, and at one point wouldn't have even qualified for the post season. Only a recent stretch of winning over the last several weeks has gotten them back in the wild card. An incredibly streaky season for them.

frankbmd · #8 09-10-2014, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beatles Guy

On behalf of Cardinals fans everywhere, we thank you for your collapse

Is this what you meant to say?

Millerwocky

`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves **
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
 All mimsy were the borogoves, **
And the mome raths outgrabe.

"Beware the Millerwocky, my son! 
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch! 
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun **
The frumious Bandersnatch!"

The Cards took their vorpal sword in hand: **
Long time the manxome foe he sought --
 So rested he by the Tumtum tree, **
And stood awhile in thought.

And, as in uffish thought he stood, **
The Millerwocky, with eyes of flame, 
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood, *
And burbled as it came!

One, two! One, two! And through and through
 The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! 
He left it dead, and with its head **
He went galumphing back.

"And, has thou slain the Millerwocky? **
Come to my arms, my beamish boy! 
O frabjous day! Callooh! Hooray!' **
He chortled in his joy.

`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves **
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe: 
All mimsy were the borogoves, **
And the mome raths outgrabe.

Beatles Guy · #9 09-11-2014, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Is this what you meant to say?

Millerwocky

`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves **
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
 All mimsy were the borogoves, **
And the mome raths outgrabe.

"Beware the Millerwocky, my son! 
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch! 
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun **
The frumious Bandersnatch!"

The Cards took their vorpal sword in hand: **
Long time the manxome foe he sought --
 So rested he by the Tumtum tree, **
And stood awhile in thought.

And, as in uffish thought he stood, **
The Millerwocky, with eyes of flame, 
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood, *
And burbled as it came!

One, two! One, two! And through and through
 The vorpal blade went snicker-snack! 
He left it dead, and with its head **
He went galumphing back.

"And, has thou slain the Millerwocky? **
Come to my arms, my beamish boy! 
O frabjous day! Callooh! Hooray!' **
He chortled in his joy.

`Twas brillig, and the slithy toves **
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe: 
All mimsy were the borogoves, **
And the mome raths outgrabe.

That's exactly what I wanted to say

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