Ray Lewis on Ray Rice

vintagetoppsguy · #1 09-10-2014, 12:05 PM

Beat your fianc�e, get banned from the NFL.

Get drunk and kill someone (Josh Brent), serve 180 days in jail and welcome back to the NFL.

Domestic violence > manslaughter, only in the NFL.

Not trying to minimize what Ray Rice did in any way, but I hope he sues the H3LL out of the NFL.

2dueces · #2 09-11-2014, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Beat your fianc�e, get banned from the NFL.

Get drunk and kill someone (Josh Brent), serve 180 days in jail and welcome back to the NFL.

Domestic violence > manslaughter, only in the NFL.

Not trying to minimize what Ray Rice did in any way, but I hope he sues the H3LL out of the NFL.

Don't forget about smoking pot and getting banned for a year.
But there are two current players with domestic violence charges playing Sunday and 1 was just sentenced in July. Without a video, I guess it didn't happen.

clydepepper · #3 09-11-2014, 12:41 PM

Talk about someone who remains employable in spite of everything:

Dont� Stallworth Timeline

On March 1, 2008, Stallworth signed a seven-year, $35 million deal with the Cleveland Browns.[5] However, he had just 17 catches for 170 yards and one touchdown for the Browns in 2008 and then missed the entire 2009 season after being suspended by the NFL following his conviction on manslaughter charges. On February 8, 2010, after being reinstated by the NFL, the Browns terminated Stallworth's contract.[6]

On February 16, 2010, Stallworth signed a one-year, $900,000 deal with the Baltimore Ravens.[7]On August 28, 2010, Stallworth broke his foot in a preseason game against the New York Giants. Head Coach John Harbaugh stated that this injury was not season-ending and Stallworth would be back after the Ravens' bye week. Stallworth made his return to the active Ravens roster in October, but his highlight of the season came during a game against the Carolina Panthers where he made his first catch as a wide receiver for the franchise during a regular season game.[8]

On December 23, 2010, Stallworth was voted by his teammates and awarded the Ed Block Courage Award for 2010. But his stats were grim. He had just two receptions for 82 yards, and seven rushes for 45 yards.[9]

[B]Stallworth signed a one-year deal [/B]with the Washington Redskins on July 29, 2011. On November 8, 2011, Stallworth was released by the Washington Redskins and put on waivers.[10] On November 15, 2011, he re-signed with the Redskins after wide receiver, Leonard Hankerson, and defensive end, Kedric Golston, were put on injured reserve.[11] After his return to the team, Stallworth would catch a touchdown pass in the endzone in Week 11 against the Dallas Cowboys allowing the Redskins to go into overtime.[12] At the end of 2011 season, Stallworth recorded 22 receptions, 309 receiving yards, and two touchdowns.[13]

On March 19, 2012, Stallworth signed with the New England Patriots.[14] On August 27, 2012, Stallworth was released by Patriots.[15] On December 3, 2012, Stallworth re-signed with the Patriots because of a broken right foot suffered by wide receiver Julian Edelman and lack of depth at the wide receiver position.[16] On December 11, it was reported that Stallworth was placed on injured reserve with an ankle injury after only playing in one game during his brief return and making a 63 yard reception for a touchdown.[17]

Stallworth re-signed with the Redskins on June 12, 2013.[18][19] On August 26, 2013, Stallworth was waived by the Redskins again.[20]

So some of the political pundits are all over former New England Patriots receiver Donte Stallworth, who was just named a politics fellow at The Huffington Post, where he will cover national security, because he once publicly stated that Osama bin Laden wasn’t responsible for the 9/11 attacks. But if the  politicos think that’s odd, wait till they hear about Donte’s Martian alter ego, Nicco!

Ray Rice may be the best thing that ever happened to Donte Stallworth.

As Casey used to say, "AMAZIN'!"

vintagetoppsguy · #4 09-11-2014, 01:23 PM

I'm surprised Aaron Hernandez isn't out while awaiting trial and playing for the Patriots.

itjclarke · #5 09-11-2014, 05:18 PM

If I remember correctly, there were some really really odd circumstances surrounding the Dante Stallworth manslaughter. I'll google it later, but think there was a guy wandering on a 4-5 lane freeway at like 2am and he walked in front of Stallworth's car. I think it was maybe even suspected as a possible suicide... however, pretty sure Stallworth had been drinking.

CLARIFICATION- according to Wiki, the accident actually happened at 7:15am and was the morning following a night of drinking for Stallworth. The victim was walking on a the roadway of a causway, not the sidewalk. Stallworth apparently tried to warn him by flashing his lights, but some how still ended up hitting him. According to lawyers, he probably could have fought the case successfully, but chose not to and accepted the charges.

Leonard Little still owns the DUI category. Early in his career while driving drunk, he kills a young mother and gets suspended 8 games (very weak). Afterward he apologizes, says all the right things, proclaims he is a new man... then goes out and gets another DUI.

Re- current Rice situation, the one positive is seeing Goodell squirm. He's clearly felt untouchable/invincible throughout his reign but I think it's now setting in- his $44M/year dream job may no longer be a lifetime position.

Re- the video, I agree with an earlier post 100%- the tape didn't change the facts, yet it is amazing how much public perception and NFL/team reaction (wholly based on public outcry) changed with its public release. What had they thought happened???? These things are terrible whether there's video or not.

That said, I 100% believe the NFL had this video and whether Goodell saw it or not, he's dug himself a huge hole by stating that to his knowledge no one in the NFL saw it. Either he's lying, or is grossly negligent for not knowing this tape, which apparently was the difference between a 2 game vs an indefinite suspension, was in his NFL office.

I also don't think "law enforcement" liked being thrown under the bus for allegedly not supplying Goodell with this tape. In his CBS interview, Goodell says he requested it several times, but was denied, and that he relied on "law enforcement" to get him needed evidence. Less than 24 hrs after these comments, a "law enforcement" official notified the press that the NFL had been given this tape 5 mths ago and even presented a VM from an NFL employee saying "thanks" for the tape and saying how "bad" the new footage looked.

HRBAKER · #6 09-11-2014, 07:28 PM

It all has an oddly Nixonian smell to it.

Runscott · #7 09-11-2014, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by itjclarke

That said, I 100% believe the NFL had this video and whether Goodell saw it or not, he's dug himself a huge hole by stating that to his knowledge no one in the NFL saw it. Either he's lying, or is grossly negligent...

Probably both - he is, after all, an NFL executive.

steve B · #8 09-14-2014, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

I'm surprised Aaron Hernandez isn't out while awaiting trial and playing for the Patriots.

He wouldn't be playing for them. He was released roughly 90 minutes after being taken into custody, before the charges were even made public. And he'd been banned from the stadium 6 days before that.

He was subject to waivers and went unclaimed.
Then Goodell said he wouldn't approve any contract until his case was settled.

A cynical person might say that the Pats cut him because it voided his 015-018 salaries around 19.3 million and let them withhold a 3.25 million signing bonus payment. (They're also trying to recoup the already paid portion of his signing bonus. ) But then, they also take the salary cap hit sooner by cutting him.

From everything that I've seen I'll be very surprised if he's available for football anytime soon.

Steve B

clydepepper · #9 09-15-2014, 09:47 AM

Condalisa Rice, NFL Commissioner?

We could do a lot worse.

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