Wagner Bought on eBay for under $200 (video)

[callou2131]

The guy is a real gem too. says he won it last month when he won it on the 8th. Then in one post he says
Jason Mars Yeah reprints are sold online but unless you have held an authentic Wagner then don't comment...trust me...been collecting 35 years and have hundreds of t206 cards...I know what a reprint is!!!have u spent 300 hours researching and mag ifying this card and printing and everythih...please don't comment unless u know....not what u think u know...only true way is to have card in your hand a d do all the test period!
Like · Reply · 6 hours ago

and he is also saying he was a card grader

Jason Mars Honestly why would u even comment.....couple hundred t206 cards 35 years experience and you make a judgment from a picture....only way to authentic it is lots of test...you judge when u don't even know....did u know I was a card grader??????????hmmmmmm.....

He is also claiming alot of "big time" collectors were bidding on it so that shows it is real. If they thought it was real wouldnt they bid more than 200 bucks lol.
Thank you Benjamin...I do want to say one thing I could buy 100 reprints for 10...why would I pay 200 for this card if I could buy a reprint for a dollar...I was bidding against olot of big time collectors....so. if they were bidding they saw something to.....no one in there right mind would pay 200 for a reprint if they can buy it for a dollar.....this 100 percent real....the people who are saying it is fake doesn't have the card in front of them and foesny know who I talked to......thank you Benjamin for they comment and you will see its real...I appreciate your nice comment.

[MW1]

Update: It was an old man just wanting to get rid of it. He didn't care about money:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152454916018043

[Runscott]

I would stick this guy on your "internet ignore list", along with the Cincinnati boys. This is about as interesting as your t.v. being stuck on the Hallmark channel.

[SilverBall67]

This exact same card was SOLD on eBay, closing on July 6, 2014, for $100.00
It was listed in the Title as REPRINT.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by MW1

Update: It was an old man just wanting to get rid of it. He didn't care about money:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152454916018043

I'd figured it was a computer print front maybe printed on a skinned common. Then I saw the closeup of the back on the extra footage. The entire thing is fake.

I must admit I once took a chance on a couple "goudeys" that were listed as reprints. Seller had others that had sold as real, cards didn't have obvious reprint things. In hand they weren't even out of the plastic before I knew they were reprints. Good looking ones, but still reprints. Since they were sold as reprints and were only ten bucks I figure I'll make a display piece out of them someday.

And of course while they were in transit the feedback came in on the others that had sold as real.........Yep, all reprints.

Steve B

[the 'stache]

"Yeah, we've got a word for "that old man wanted to give away a $400,000 baseball card for $200" kinda odd in the English language. It's called suspicious."

Originally Posted by MW1

Update: It was an old man just wanting to get rid of it. He didn't care about money:

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152454916018043

[toledo_mudhen]

Dolly Parton - Not Real??? Seriously???

Guys - I ve looked at em with a loupe and they ARE real...........

[btcarfagno]

Originally Posted by toledo_mudhen

Dolly Parton - Not Real??? Seriously???

Guys - I ve looked at em with a loupe and they ARE real...........

Those are the kinds of things you really need to get a feel for. Hold them in your hands. Get a sense for now they feel to better judge if real or not. Tough to tell from a photo.

Know what I mean?

Tom C

[Tabe]

Edit: Never mind.

[callou2131]

Just an update, speaking to the reporter, mars gave the reporter permission to contact sgc to find out what happened, then he quickly took that permission away and refuses to allow sgc to speak to the reporter covering the story. He is still selling it on craigslist and claiming it to be 100% real. Isn't that fraud?

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by callou2131

Just an update, speaking to the reporter, mars gave the reporter permission to contact sgc to find out what happened, then he quickly took that permission away and refuses to allow sgc to speak to the reporter covering the story. He is still selling it on craigslist and claiming it to be 100% real. Isn't that fraud?

He is already a proven scammer, I hope the new outs him for it:

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

...And anyone who thinks he is just a poor sucker that doesn't know what he is doing here is the evidence that he buys reprints to resell:

Bought Aug 18th a Gehrig listed as a reprint for $10.50:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1933-LOU-GEH...item1e9026c6f0

Then sells the same card Sept 6th missing any info about it being a reprint for $48.50:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Baseball-car...p2047675.l2557

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by callou2131

The guy is a real gem too. says he won it last month when he won it on the 8th. Then in one post he says
Jason Mars Yeah reprints are sold online but unless you have held an authentic Wagner then don't comment...trust me...been collecting 35 years and have hundreds of t206 cards...I know what a reprint is!!!have u spent 300 hours researching and mag ifying this card and printing and everythih...please don't comment unless u know....not what u think u know...only true way is to have card in your hand a d do all the test period!
Like · Reply · 6 hours ago

and he is also saying he was a card grader

Jason Mars Honestly why would u even comment.....couple hundred t206 cards 35 years experience and you make a judgment from a picture....only way to authentic it is lots of test...you judge when u don't even know....did u know I was a card grader??????????hmmmmmm.....

He is also claiming alot of "big time" collectors were bidding on it so that shows it is real. If they thought it was real wouldnt they bid more than 200 bucks lol.
Thank you Benjamin...I do want to say one thing I could buy 100 reprints for 10...why would I pay 200 for this card if I could buy a reprint for a dollar...I was bidding against olot of big time collectors....so. if they were bidding they saw something to.....no one in there right mind would pay 200 for a reprint if they can buy it for a dollar.....this 100 percent real....the people who are saying it is fake doesn't have the card in front of them and foesny know who I talked to......thank you Benjamin for they comment and you will see its real...I appreciate your nice comment.

It is hard for me to believe he has ever dealt with a t206 based off the video. The video has him going through a binder of newer "shiney" cards and then stops to point out a card that is "40 years old", if he gets excited to point out a 70's card than I doubt he sees, let alone owns, any pre war cards.

[bn2cardz]

I see that the news did an update piece last night where they indicate that many people claim it is a reprint:

http://www.mynews4.com/news/local/st...lftAbmPiQ.cspx

[chernieto]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

I see that the news did an update piece last night where they indicate that many people claim it is a reprint:

http://www.mynews4.com/news/local/st...lftAbmPiQ.cspx

The kind of basic research any news organization should be doing before the first article was printed or TV interview was aired.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOzAgpxg5wE

when you trust too much in hearing something on TV or the Internet
my 8 9 year old daughter just says "Bonjour"

This Wagner story reminds me of that commercial

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by chernieto

The kind of basic research any news organization should be doing before the first article was printed or TV interview was aired.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOzAgpxg5wE

when you trust too much in hearing something on TV or the Internet
my 8 9 year old daughter just says "Bonjour"

This Wagner story reminds me of that commercial

This "news" service really did lack any investigative journalism. I still believe they jumped on a craigslist fad and didn't bother to do any more research since the owner was an expert with a "40 year old card" in his collection.

This really does have the same feeling as the Edwards-Cobb card. An obvious fake with a delusional (or con artist) person trying to state that it is real when everyone that knows prewar cards can spot that it is a fake. Then a news agency reports on the finding and struggles of the owner. All the while everyone with knowledge is screaming at them that it is a fake.

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

It is hard for me to believe he has ever dealt with a t206 based off the video. The video has him going through a binder of newer "shiney" cards and then stops to point out a card that is "40 years old", if he gets excited to point out a 70's card than I doubt he sees, let alone owns, any pre war cards.

Andy, in all fairness, consider who he's talking to. Some random news guy. The average tv viewer has maybe heard of the T206 Honus Wagner, the Gretzky Wagner. And that's probably about it. To a non hobbyist, a 40 year old card seems old.

I have a binder full of shiny modern cards. I get excited by 40 year old cards. My 1973 Topps Roberto Clemente is one of my favorite cards. I'm collecting the 1975 Topps set in high grade.

And I have pre-war cards.