OT: Did Adam Dunn ruin his Hall chances

[Runscott]

Brent, the great thing is that everyone here respects everyone else's opinion

[Peter_Spaeth]

Scott, if he had scattered 200 more singles across 20 seasons, thereby raising his average to .280 or so, would that really make that much of a difference? It seems obvious to me (and most people) that Reggie is an easy choice for the HOF, as was Killebrew.

[packs]

I was just surprised by how much support Reggie got. More people who saw him play thought he was a HOFer than people who watched Ted Williams play. That seemed unusual to me. Though admittedly the margin is very slim.

[Centauri]

Post season success matters. Ted, for all his greatness, was shut down in his only World Series. No rings for Ted, 5 for Reggie. Makes a difference.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Anyone who didn't vote for Ted did so out of spite. Nothing to do with post season. Obviously no human being on the planet realistically could have believed Ted was not an all time great.

[clydepepper]

& Mays & Aaron...just folks tried for the fifteen minutes= idiots! and, as you say, spiteful idiots!

Question: Will this thread last longer until it is Dunn, or will it just Peter out?

[icollectDCsports]

Suppose Teddy Ballgame's feuding with some of the writers didn't help him when it came time for his HOF vote. Still no good reason for them not to vote for him.

And more than 5% of the voters didn't vote for Willie Mays. Unreal.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Scott, if he had scattered 200 more singles across 20 seasons, thereby raising his average to .280 or so, would that really make that much of a difference? It seems obvious to me (and most people) that Reggie is an easy choice for the HOF, as was Killebrew.

Yeah, I know he's an easy choice for most. I got that. I'm listening to you and respect your opinion.

What if Reggie's lifetime batting average had been .240 or a little lower - would you still say he's a HOF'er?

More water and we eventually get to Adam Dunn.

[Peter_Spaeth]

The slippery slope!!

[Centauri]

LOL - if Reggie wasn't as good as he was, like much worse down to Dunn's level, what then?

[howard38]

Reggie was one of my favorites but I recognize that his deficiencies kept him from being a top tier hall of famer. But he was, IMO, a great hitter for most of his career. His numbers suffer not just from strikeouts but also because he played in a pitcher dominated era and for much of his career played in an awful park for hitters. Interestingly his career road BA is higher than three time batting title winner Carl Yastremzki's road BA.

I also think Reggie got a little too much credit for clutch hitting. As great as he was in the World Series he was pretty bad in the playoffs.

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by Centauri

LOL - if Reggie wasn't as good as he was, like much worse down to Dunn's level, what then?

The slope hasn't gotten that slippery yet, and I doubt it will.

Has there ever been any Hall of excellence where admission requirements became tougher as the years went by?

[packs]

Only one I can think of is golf. Used to be you only needed 50 percent. Now they have a smaller panel and you need 75. I think they also upped the minimum amount of tour wins.

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Brent, the great thing is that everyone here respects everyone else's opinion

Yes sir! Love learning about everyone's opinions on players and the history of the game. Again, I do not think Dunn is a HOF'er. He has tremendous power though


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[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by HOF Auto Rookies

Yes sir! Love learning about everyone's opinions on players and the history of the game. Again, I do not think Dunn is a HOF'er. He has tremendous power though


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So did Dave Kingman...If I had a choice with the game on the line, I would take even him over Dunn....

[HOF Auto Rookies]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

So did Dave Kingman...If I had a choice with the game on the line, I would take even him over Dunn....

I'll pass on both


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[Mountaineer1999]

Wow! This is an awful lot of words about Adam Dunn, a guy I would have never put in the same sentence with HOF.

[wolf441]

Originally Posted by Mountaineer1999

Wow! This is an awful lot of words about Adam Dunn, a guy I would have never put in the same sentence with HOF.

In fairness, I think the thread stopped being about Dunn awhile back. Now it's more of a Reggie Jackson/what makes a Hall of Famer? thread.

My 2 cents, Jackson was a Hall of Famer. Not a top tier all time great. But if it's the Hall of FAME, then Reggie certainly qualifies. One of those guys that you wouldn't take a bathroom break when he was coming up to bat. Of course, there are quite a few other guys that you could say the same thing about (Canseco in his prime, McGwire, Joey Belle, etc), but they we're either PED guys, dicks, had too short of a prime, or all of the above...