Mantle Ball - UDA vs PSA 9

[Clueless]

For those recommending one gets familiar with an autograph and purchase w/o some sort of coa, read this:

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/...ticle-1.759026

I don't have that kind of confidence if joe montana can't even tell his own signaturevfrom a forgery.

[jbhofmann]

As a 10 year old kid I went to a show at the Cincy Gardens and got Mantle ($50) on a Bobby Brown Haiti ball. It has never shown any toning.

[djson1]

Originally Posted by Clueless

For those recommending one gets familiar with an autograph and purchase w/o some sort of coa, read this:

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/...ticle-1.759026

I don't have that kind of confidence if joe montana can't even tell his own signaturevfrom a forgery.

But then again, that's why you can't rely on those TPAs...since those guys opinions aren't any better (and in many cases, worse) than your's or mine. At least with UDA, Steiner, etc,there's a better chance the sigs were signed in front of somebody ethical (at least we're led to believe so).

By the way, I know that article is old, but I read this part and was amazed:
"..Or how he would find just the right combination of insects to come up with an ageless ink." ....Holy crap...I didn't know they used insects to come up with a vintage looking ink! Really amazing....

[packs]

Here's another one of the toned balls I was talking about. This Whitey is coincidentally also a Bobby Brown. Maybe it is a defect in certain Brown balls:

White Ford

Also spotted this Shantz but I can't see the president stamp:

Bobby Shantz

Edited to add there's no Haiti mark on the Ford one.

[Runscott]

Thanks. I have never seen such a thing, but I don't collect single-signed balls, so probably wouldn't notice most of them.

Horrible stuff - wouldn't own it.

[packs]

What's annoying about the toning is there doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason or even timeline of when it'll happen. I have a Cepeda ball that I sent to him through the mail. He signed it in black ink and it was beautiful. Now years later it has brown spots all over it and the ink is nearly faded away.

Will have to check the president stamp next time I'm at my parents house. I have a Koufax with some spotting too that I think is a Coleman.

[shelly]

Originally Posted by packs

What's annoying about the toning is there doesn't seem to be a rhyme or reason or even timeline of when it'll happen. I have a Cepeda ball that I sent to him through the mail. He signed it in black ink and it was beautiful. Now years later it has brown spots all over it and the ink is nearly faded away.

Will have to check the president stamp next time I'm at my parents house. I have a Koufax with some spotting too that I think is a Coleman.

It had to do with the Hati balls. Most of them had even toneing through out the ball in the last two years it bcame splotges very dark and ugly do to the water that was used.