I need help with the authenticity of these

sfacujackcat · #1 10-06-2014, 05:38 PM

It was my fault. I jumped the gun asking about their authenticity before finding out more about them/her.

Basically, her lawyer told her not to give out info about the cards except to a trusted dealer and not to tell people where she's from etc because of the value he put on the cards. She asked around, and people told her to call my store.

She got them from her grandfather when he passed away recently. There were 5 grandkids, and each one got a bunch of cards. She's sent several more pictures with what looks to be a near complete set of the '33 Goudeys.

It's not as fishy as it's sounding. But I'm still trying to find out more. I'm going to be meeting with her and her lawyer (who also collects cards) soon to take a closer look, hold and feel them (the cards), etc.

icollectDCsports · #2 10-06-2014, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by sfacujackcat

It was my fault. I jumped the gun asking about their authenticity before finding out more about them/her.

Basically, her lawyer told her not to give out info about the cards except to a trusted dealer and not to tell people where she's from etc. She asked around, and people told her to call my store.

She got them from her grandfather when he passed away recently. There were 5 grandkids, and each one got a bunch of cards. She's sent several more pictures with what looks to be a near complete set of the '33 Goudeys.

It's not as fishy as it's sounding. But I'm still trying to find out more. I'm going to be meeting with her and her lawyer (who also collects cards) soon to take a closer look, hold and feel them, etc.

Got it. I was just concerned that she may be part of a larger scam operation of some kind.

Sean · #3 10-06-2014, 06:30 PM

If her lawyer collects cards, he should have advised her to have them graded if she is planning to sell.

vintagetoppsguy · #4 10-06-2014, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sfacujackcat

She got them from her grandfather when he passed away recently. There were 5 grandkids, and each one got a bunch of cards. She's sent several more pictures with what looks to be a near complete set of the '33 Goudeys.

You don't really believe that, do you?

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Originally Posted by sfacujackcat

I'm going to be meeting with her and her lawyer (who also collects cards) soon to take a closer look, hold and feel them (the cards), etc.

Why are you meeting with her attorney? They're fake. If her attorney collects too, he should know they're fake as well.

MW1 · #5 10-06-2014, 11:00 PM

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She got them from her grandfather when he passed away recently.

Seems unlikely. She and her attorney are either totally ignorant about vintage sports cards (what attorney would assign such a high value without proper research?) or knowledge is being withheld and it's a scam.

drmondobueno · #6 10-07-2014, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

You don't really believe that, do you?

Why are you meeting with her attorney? They're fake. If her attorney collects too, he should know they're fake as well.

Her attorney? Really? Name? Location? My scam sensor is screaming.

vintagetoppsguy · #7 10-07-2014, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by drmondobueno

My scam sensor is screaming.

At least yours is still working. Mine got so high it broke.

sfacujackcat · #8 10-07-2014, 10:32 AM

Alrighty, judging by the masses, it's a scam. I'll let her know that she's lying and all of her cards are fake.

Thanks guys for the advice and help. Guess I'm not as well informed in vintage as I thought I was. Lessons learned.

Thanks again. This thread can now be deleted.

Jaybird · #9 10-07-2014, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sfacujackcat

Alrighty, judging by the masses, it's a scam. I'll let her know that she's lying and all of her cards are fake.

Thanks guys for the advice and help. Guess I'm not as well informed in vintage as I thought I was. Lessons learned.

Thanks again. This thread can now be deleted.

Why do you feel the need to delete all of your past threads? Everything you sell, you delete pictures of and the record of the sale. I just did a quick search last night and it seems you have a pattern of selling and then deleting. Asking, deleting. Posting, deleting. Hiding something?

Leon · #10 10-07-2014, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaybird

Why do you feel the need to delete all of your past threads? Everything you sell, you delete pictures of and the record of the sale. I just did a quick search last night and it seems you have a pattern of selling and then deleting. Asking, deleting. Posting, deleting. Hiding something?

I gave him an infraction this morning for deleting posts and told him why and was as overly polite as I could possibly be. I told him it wasn't personal and nothing else would happen. He PM'd that he would keep it in mind. I almost said something else but let it go. Then a short time (an hour maybe) later he posted right above here, "this thread can now be deleted". He is in time out..

Jaybird · #11 10-07-2014, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by sfacujackcat

It was my fault. I jumped the gun asking about their authenticity before finding out more about them/her.

Basically, her lawyer told her not to give out info about the cards except to a trusted dealer and not to tell people where she's from etc because of the value he put on the cards. She asked around, and people told her to call my store.

She got them from her grandfather when he passed away recently. There were 5 grandkids, and each one got a bunch of cards. She's sent several more pictures with what looks to be a near complete set of the '33 Goudeys.

It's not as fishy as it's sounding. But I'm still trying to find out more. I'm going to be meeting with her and her lawyer (who also collects cards) soon to take a closer look, hold and feel them (the cards), etc.

Complete set of Goudeys but fakes of everything else? What? Grandfather gave everyone cards. If he knew enough to have a full set of Goudeys he would have known enough not to have these recent creation fakes. C'mon.

sfacujackcat · #12 10-07-2014, 09:07 AM

Grandfather didn't give away cards. He passed, family didn't know what to do, so they split them up. You see it all the time.

Actually, I thought the Goudey set was small (like 100 cards or so), but it's not. So, she doesn't have a set. She has about 75 various Goudeys and about 80-100 T-200s that she showed me. It's a nice-sized lot, fake or not, of vintage (or counterfeit) cards.

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