MLB Glamor boys in 1st Playoffs

Runscott · #1 10-06-2014, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by clydepepper

Scott- Allow me to refresh your memory on Cesar Cedeno

1972 Age 21 - .320 BA ; .537 SLG ; 55 SB
1973 Age 22 - .320 BA ; .537 SLG ; 56 SB

While he did not reach these levels after 1973, these 2 seasons hitting in the Astrodome during a notoriously pitcher-friendly era, stand up well against Trout's first two seasons.

I'm not sure Cedeno would have ever done better than those two seasons, but we can't be sure that Trout can either.

There is no comparison.

Even skipping his first two years as you did, Cedeno's numbers still don't hold a candle to Trout's - we both have MLB REF to look at, so there's no need to argue about it. Trout has comparable stolen base numbers, since that's a number you are grabbing, but was caught far, far less. Much better base runner than Cedeno. And HR's and RBI's are far superior for Trout...and that's using ALL of Trout's three full seasons.

71buc · #2 10-06-2014, 08:28 PM

Scott, I hope you don't think my intention was to compare Cedeno to Trout

I was referring to the similar level of hype surrounding Cedeno early in his career. Obviously he didn't quite pan out as many thought he would. As an Astros fan I'm sure you remember the controversy that followed him as well. Although it's highly unlikely that he shares Cedeno's demons I only hope that Trout continues to impress as an athlete and as a role model. Baseball needs young stars who can reach the next generation of fans. I think there are a lot of exciting young players in today's game and Trout is the gold standard. Although their level of maturity is similar I think more highly of Puig's future than Harpers. He is more athletic and infinitely more entertaining. People forget Puig is only 23.

Runscott · #3 10-06-2014, 08:42 PM

We had a lot of drama in Houston in those days - Cedeno, J.R. Richard, Don Wilson. The hype around Cedeno was huge - took a long time to realize that we simply had a solid center fielder.

Runscott · #4 10-06-2014, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 71buc

Scott, I hope you don't think my intention was to compare Cedeno to Trout

I was referring to the similar level of hype surrounding Cedeno early in his career. Obviously he didn't quite pan out as many thought he would. As an Astros fan I'm sure you remember the controversy that followed him as well. Although it's highly unlikely that he shares Cedeno's demons I only hope that Trout continues to impress as an athlete and as a role model. Baseball needs young stars who can reach the next generation of fans. I think there are a lot of exciting young players in today's game and Trout is the gold standard. Although their level of maturity is similar I think more highly of Puig's future than Harpers. He is more athletic and infinitely more entertaining. People forget Puig is only 23.

They also forget that Harper is only 21. I think you are right about Puig, but Harper is already sounding and acting more mature than when he first came up; Puig, not so much.

clydepepper · #5 10-07-2014, 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Runscott

They also forget that Harper is only 21. I think you are right about Puig, but Harper is already sounding and acting more mature than when he first came up; Puig, not so much.

Well, remember that Puig is also undergoing culture-shock to the nth degree.

Runscott · #6 10-07-2014, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by clydepepper

Well, remember that Puig is also undergoing culture-shock to the nth degree.

Raymond, that's a very good point. It will be interesting to see where all these guys are five years from now.

ooo-ribay · #7 10-07-2014, 09:52 AM

Whoops....my bad.....thought this was a Joe Panik thread.

Runscott · #8 10-07-2014, 10:48 AM

Interesting that Josh Hamilton said that he didn't think the Angels played poorly. I guess by "play" he wasn't including "hitting", as 2-37 from your three sluggers couldn't really be called hitting. Given that 2 of those 3 hits were HR's, you might even say they were "Dunn-esque".

clydepepper · #9 10-07-2014, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Runscott

Raymond, that's a very good point. It will be interesting to see where all these guys are five years from now.

I just can't wait to hear all the human trafficking stories that are going to come to light that involved Cuban Baseball players.

Runscott · #10 10-07-2014, 02:07 PM

Puig isn't in the line-up today.

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