1876 scorecard in REA

oldjudge · #1 10-20-2014, 11:17 AM

LOL---Gary, you state that as an underbidder, if you or other underbidders had not bid the price would have been lower. What lot was this not the case for? If you were an aggressive bidder on this lot, but believe that it went way too high, why were you bidding? If you want to see high prices let's talk about the PSA 8.5 Curley Three Stooges card or the $95,000 presidents card.
Barry--who knows. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I could see this on display in Wrigley or Atlanta when (if) the Cubs play the Braves next year. Think about it, the person who scored this scorecard sat in the South End Grounds 138 years ago and watched Al Spaulding pitch to George Wright while he was being caught by Deacon White. This is not a card that was produced after the fact, which by the way would cost many multiples of the scorecard price. This scorecard was part of the game. BTW, Anson talks about this very game in his autobiography.

barrysloate · #2 10-20-2014, 11:51 AM

Agreed Jay, that every scorecard and ticket stub was in attendance for a game, and that has tremendous appeal to the people who collect them. And I also agree that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. All I was saying was that while the game was noteworthy, I don't consider it historic.

Suppose you had the scorecard for the game that Babe Ruth hit his 200th home run. That is certainly a noteworthy game, and 200 HR's is a great milestone. But I would not consider that historic. His 1st and 714th would be historic, and maybe his 500th too, but not his 200th. I'm just distinguishing between what is really cool and what is legendary. Subjective, no doubt.

And assuming you won the scorecard, you have the Sloate seal of approval on it. It really is a nice one.

oldjudge · #3 10-20-2014, 11:58 AM

Barry--I guess I'd agree with your analogy if this was the scorecard from the second or third game of the Boston-Chicago three game series. However, it was the first. Other than the scorecard from the first game in NL history, I see no more important 1876 scorecard, and I assume the scorecard from the first game would sell for six figures, if one exists.

GaryPassamonte · #4 10-20-2014, 01:12 PM

Jay- I guess I got a little crazy when bidding on the scorecard. Thank God I caught myself and realized I had no business sensibly being in the fray.

oldjudge · #5 10-20-2014, 01:48 PM

Good thing these guys weren't bidding too!

barrysloate · #6 10-20-2014, 02:10 PM

It's a great scorecard Jay, and an important game from the first year of the league, but I still think it's just short of the historic level. As you said, it's subjective. I guess anything from 1876 deserves its own special status though.

bobbvc · #7 10-21-2014, 11:00 PM

When you consider what Jeter stuff is selling for, or many other modern items, not to mention many mass produced vintage items, 5,500 seems like a bargain for a soon to be 150 year old scorecard. Whether it's 1st or 2nd tier historic, if that's what you collect....... Personally, the 2 oldest teams in the National League, their first game against each other, way more historic than tonight's first pitched ball of the world series which is going to Cooperstown but if sold would top 5,500 I'd bet.

David Atkatz · #8 10-25-2014, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by barrysloate

Agreed Jay, that every scorecard and ticket stub was in attendance for a game, and that has tremendous appeal to the people who collect them.

Except for full tickets, which were not there. That's why I don't understand why they sell for a considerable premium. Yes, they are rare, but so what? They have as much to do with the game in question as any ticket I could buy at any box office today.

djson1 · #9 10-27-2014, 05:13 PM

Just my 2 cents: I think $5,500 for any scorecard is crazy...but then again, a LOT of things sell for crazy prices these days. I miss the prices of the old days....sigh.

(I'm more of a buyer than a seller...so, that's why)

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