Seller: "Ill just keep it" tactics in negotiation

[1952boyntoncollector]

you assume the buyer is rude and asking for market price...or is trying to get an item from a personal collection..or seller has to sell at market price..i never asked any of those things...

i just talking about the scenerio where a seller is ACTIVELY trying to sell a card..and is upset with an offer from a buyer.....i just dont think the seller can be upset when the buyer is offering market value...if the buyer has the highest offer out there for the period of time that an item typically sells for...and the seller says he will just keep it....im fine with that..

the.seller can do what he wants with the card but he cant argue that the buyer did not offer market value or at the very least , made an offer that you cant consider a 'low ball' when its the highest 'market value' the seller has received and that its not like the seller has an alternative to sell it for more so only responds 'ill just keep it'.

thus i would argue that seller wasnt planning to sell at the going market price..maybe the seller made a mistake as to what the perceived market price....but it is what it is...'ill just keep it' means not willing to sell at market price....

[glchen]

A seller may be ACTIVELY trying to sell a card, but it does not mean it's a firesale where he HAS to sell it. Therefore, if he thinks the buyer is still trying to lowball him and the seller believes he can get a better price elsewhere, he'll just do that, and tell the buyer accordingly. It's like the ebay Global Selling Program. Sure, sellers can probably sell more of their stuff if they sold overseas and to Canada. That means more money, and what they should do if they want sell their stuff, right? However, a lot of sellers simply don't want to deal with the hassle and pain that may come with a troubled sale. It's the same thing with sale negotiations. If a seller thinks that this sale is more trouble than it's worth, they'll just say forget it. My time is worth more than this.

And again the seller and buyer may have very real differences in what perceived market value is for an item. A buyer may look at the last sale in that grade. However, the seller may think that listing was listed poorly, the card had poor eye appeal for the grade, etc. There are many different factors involved. In the end, when the seller says to the buyer that he'll just keep the card, he may in essence be telling the buyer, go try to find this card in this condition for the price you are looking for. It's not going to be as easy as you think. At that point, the buyer needs to consider whether it's better to just take his money elsewhere or if the seller does have a point there.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

you assume the buyer is rude and asking for market price...or is trying to get an item from a personal collection..or seller has to sell at market price..i never asked any of those things...

i just talking about the scenerio where a seller is ACTIVELY trying to sell a card..and is upset with an offer from a buyer.....i just dont think the seller can be upset when the buyer is offering market value...if the buyer has the highest offer out there for the period of time that an item typically sells for...and the seller says he will just keep it....im fine with that..

the.seller can do what he wants with the card but he cant argue that the buyer did not offer market value or at the very least , made an offer that you cant consider a 'low ball' when its the highest 'market value' the seller has received and that its not like the seller has an alternative to sell it for more so only responds 'ill just keep it'.

thus i would argue that seller wasnt planning to sell at the going market price..maybe the seller made a mistake as to what the perceived market price....but it is what it is...'ill just keep it' means not willing to sell at market price....

Your conclusion that market price = your price has already been amply discussed elsewhere in this thread and doesn't need a rehash. This latest post, however, assumes a great deal about the seller's mindset and other dealings with other buyers, and is suspect as a result. Remember, when you assume something about me you are likely to make an "ass" out of both "u" and "me".

[thecatspajamas]

Dude, she doesn't love you any more. Deal with it and move on.