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Old 12-16-2014, 04:55 PM
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The thread about the Gehrig premium got me to thinking "what is a premium"?

To me it is a very loose term (so I can collect a lot of stuff) but it usually doesn't include reprints of original items. And I forgot who said it but I think it referred to porn .....
"I am not sure I know how to define a premium but I know one when I see one!!"

Here is one on thin paper I still call a premium....
Leon- You may know this, but that is the back cover of a paper book/pamphlet. I can send you some copies of a complete one.
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:07 PM
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A premium is something you send away for for a price (whether monetary payment, box topic, coupons, other), while a supplement is something extra included with the main item. Collectors sent away with payment for the Baseball Magazine premiums, while the Police Gazette Supplements were included in the magazine. When you don't know how a print was distributed/obtained you won't know whether it was a premium or a supplement-- and there are numerous cases in the hobby of this.

Baseball cards is an interesting area in that how an item was distributed is an essential part to the item's identity. By standard definition, a baseball card has to have been distributed commercially in some way or form to the general public, and cards are categorized and often valuated by how they were distributed (premiums, supplements, inserts, trade cards, other). That's why baseball card collectors spend so much time pondering and discussing how items were distributed.
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:27 PM
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Leon- You may know this, but that is the back cover of a paper book/pamphlet. I can send you some copies of a complete one.
Isn't Criger on the cover of the booklet as well? I used to have one with him on the front, but not sure if it is this one.
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:44 PM
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Isn't Criger on the cover of the booklet as well? I used to have one with him on the front, but not sure if it is this one.
The one I have has a hunting scene with Teddy Roosevelt on the front.

Edited to add: This one is almost identical to the booklet I have, but I have a different "theme" on the front:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1910-LOUIS-C...item5661781e40
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Old 12-16-2014, 05:59 PM
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I am not sure I had seen the booklets before, or more than likely just forgot. I didn't pay much for my Criger cover so not a big deal. Interesting how different companies gave them away. I love that kind of stuff. (different stamps/names from companies on similar items)
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'Dr. Miles' Anti-Pain Pills'....yessiree - bet they worked like magic. They probably worked better on passed kidney stones than passed balls. yuk-yuk
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I agree with Leon's "loose" definition. If I'm collecting a player, my goal is to get one of every card and premium they have, not including modern issues. So if an item is "card-like" (a blotter, for example) or "premium-like," I feel like I would need it. For example, if I collected Criger, I would definitely need that booklet, or at least the back cover of it. Where it gets interesting is when the items start to get bigger, and sometimes it gets tougher to determine whether to consider something a premium or an advertising piece. As with everything in collecting, each collector has to come up with his own criteria.

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