Isnt this always the 'counteroffer' ramblng

[Bestdj777]

I take it from your post that you believe that a seller on Net54 should either pass along all of the savings from not selling it on another auction platform (eBay or one of the auction houses) to the buyer or stick to the traditional auction house?

I don't think I necessarily agree. If someone lists a card on here, I don't expect to necessarily get it at a discount to what I would pay elsewhere. Sure, if the piece is not uncommon, a seller may willing to pass along part of the savings to encourage buyers on this forum, but that is his/her decision. But, if it is something I want, I get enough of a benefit from buying from here versus another forum (i.e., I don't have to question 1) the authenticity of autographs from the sellers here or 2) whether a card has been trimmed, etc.), that there is usually enough of an incentive to buy through here.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Bestdj777

I take it from your post that you believe that a seller on Net54 should either pass along all of the savings from not selling it on another auction platform (eBay or one of the auction houses) to the buyer or stick to the traditional auction house?

I don't think I necessarily agree. If someone lists a card on here, I don't expect to necessarily get it at a discount to what I would pay elsewhere. Sure, if the piece is not uncommon, a seller may willing to pass along part of the savings to encourage buyers on this forum, but that is his/her decision. But, if it is something I want, I get enough of a benefit from buying from here versus another forum (i.e., I don't have to question 1) the authenticity of autographs from the sellers here or 2) whether a card has been trimmed, etc.), that there is usually enough of an incentive to buy through here.

im actually a seller here a lot....I think savings should be passed to the buyer and a bigger net should be given to the seller for not being on ebay.... if a sale is done right..

I think seller or buyer, basically you have to assume the seller can always list on ebay if feels its worth it versus taking an offer he is unconfortable with.......ebay always an elephant in the room ..

[pawpawdiv9]

If only Ebay was like the AH's. Charge the buyers a 10% BP(buyer premium), thus putting the shoe on the other foot. The seller has no fees and BP is lower than a AH. (most near 18-20%) i think.

[autograf]

You can do all the cipherng about 'net to seller' you want to but most people offer a card at a price they want or will entertain a best offer if it's advertised that way. Either buy it at that price or make an offer. Some people don't live in the net to seller world you do. It makes sense but things are not always buttoned up so nicely. If you like the card and the price, it works. If not, move on to another offer or another card. You will never have everyone fall into the same category on selling on the BST versus ebay......

[Exhibitman]

I hate that nickel and dime crap negotiating. If you have to sweat a fee out of a seller you really should not be buying cards or any other luxury goods. Worst of all is the buyer who wants a 3% discount for a check instead of PayPal. Yeah, but I want my hourly rate plus mileage for taking the paper to the bank. When I run across a buyer like that I just pass on the deal. Life is too short

Bottom line: don't be a schnorrer (yiddish: chiseler or cheapskate) about the hobby and people will respond favorably. Negotiate every deal like it was paid for in blood and no one will want to deal with you.

[Mark70Z]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

I hate that nickel and dime crap negotiating. If you have to sweat a fee out of a seller you really should not be buying cards or any other luxury goods. Worst of all is the buyer who wants a 3% discount for a check instead of PayPal. Yeah, but I want my hourly rate plus mileage for taking the paper to the bank. When I run across a buyer like that I just pass on the deal. Life is too short

Bottom line: don't be a schnorrer (yiddish: chiseler or cheapskate) about the hobby and people will respond favorably. Negotiate every deal like it was paid for in blood and no one will want to deal with you.

Well said; I'm typically a buyer and I would want to buy again from reputable dealers so I purchase the item outright or offer what I believe the item is worth; typically no more, no less. Of course I'm in it for a hobby, not life and death.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

I hate that nickel and dime crap negotiating. If you have to sweat a fee out of a seller you really should not be buying cards or any other luxury goods. Worst of all is the buyer who wants a 3% discount for a check instead of PayPal. Yeah, but I want my hourly rate plus mileage for taking the paper to the bank. When I run across a buyer like that I just pass on the deal. Life is too short

Bottom line: don't be a schnorrer (yiddish: chiseler or cheapskate) about the hobby and people will respond favorably. Negotiate every deal like it was paid for in blood and no one will want to deal with you.

I just use 'net to seller' language so you don't see 100 payal 90, paypal friends, 90 money order etc...sellers are the ones that sweat the 3 % so I use the net to seller language whether im the buyer or the seller so theres no problems or misunderstandings....that's all I mean when say net to seller..not trying to be cute or underhanded...

[Republicaninmass]

. i am always aware that any offer i make on a card has to be high enough net to the seller that it wouldn't be worth their time to list on ebay after fees..

Who decides what their time is worth?

I've noticed an awful lot of gripes for a "hobby' that is supposed to be " fun and enjoyable ".

BTW what figure did you use for my 'time" when you offered $100 for my n9 display of 40 cards?


Just curious

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by autograf

You can do all the cipherng about 'net to seller' you want to but most people offer a card at a price they want or will entertain a best offer if it's advertised that way. Either buy it at that price or make an offer. Some people don't live in the net to seller world you do. It makes sense but things are not always buttoned up so nicely. If you like the card and the price, it works. If not, move on to another offer or another card. You will never have everyone fall into the same category on selling on the BST versus ebay......

no cyphering either way..go look at all the seller posts...they ask for differnet amounts of money depending how they are paid most of the time....most people take different amounts of money depending on how its paid in b/s/t or do most take the same price no matter how its paid? no need to talk about ciphering ..