Please show a card more rare than Wagner (T206)

Peter_Spaeth · #1 01-02-2015, 07:46 PM

Ted, 135 Leaf Paiges graded by PSA alone.

Runscott · #2 01-02-2015, 07:53 PM

Ted just stated that it's "as tough to find". We find T206 Wagners all the time. How often do you find a Leaf Paige?

Peter_Spaeth · #3 01-02-2015, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Runscott

Ted just stated that it's "as tough to find". We find T206 Wagners all the time. How often do you find a Leaf Paige?

Well maybe it's just me Scott, but if there are many more of card A than card B, I would say card A is probably not as tough to find. But that's just me. Your mileage may vary.

Runscott · #4 01-02-2015, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Well maybe it's just me Scott, but if there are many more of card A than card B, I would say card A is probably not as tough to find. But that's just me. Your mileage may vary.

Peter, this is the kinder, gentler runscott. I'm practicing on Ted.

Peter_Spaeth · #5 01-02-2015, 08:13 PM

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CurtisFlood · #6 01-02-2015, 07:54 PM

Thanks for the work guys. Best slide show in a long time. can honestly say I have never owned a single card in this array of sweet cardboard.

tedzan · #7 01-03-2015, 07:08 AM

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tedzan · #8 01-02-2015, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Ted, 135 Leaf Paiges graded by PSA alone.

Peter

I've tracked 1949 Paige cards since 1982, when I acquired my Paige.

That "135" number you have noted is the result of re-grades and crossovers.

My educated estimate is that approx. 80-90 different Paige cards are actually reflected in that number.

The 1949 Leaf Paige is one of the most sought after post-war cards; therefore, , it garners some ridiculously high $$$$$ figures.

And, as little as 0.5 increase in it being RE-GRADED results in 1000's of $$$$ increase in its market price.

T-Rex TED
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Peter_Spaeth · #9 01-03-2015, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by tedzan

Peter

I've tracked 1949 Paige cards since 1982, when I acquired my Paige.

That "135" number you have noted is the result of re-grades and crossovers.

My educated estimate is that approx. 80-90 different Paige cards are actually reflected in that number.

The 1949 Leaf Paige is one of the most sought after post-war cards; therefore, , it garners some ridiculously high $$$$$ figures.

And, as little as 0.5 increase in it being RE-GRADED results in 1000's of $$$$ increase in its market price.

T-Rex TED
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Ted there are also 44 sgc graded ones. And who knows how many ungraded. Not saying it isn't a very tough card, just saying it isn't Wagner in terms of scarcity.

jb217676 · #10 01-03-2015, 08:36 AM

Great cardboard guys! Here are a few tough ones that I own.

Jobu · #11 01-04-2015, 12:20 AM

Jeff, I absolutely love that Mathewson! Thanks for posting it, I didn't even know it existed (like many other cards in this thread - thanks to you all).

Another cool thing about the Pastime Novelty Mathewson - that card is also Caspar the Friendly Ghost's rookie.

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Originally Posted by jb217676

Great cardboard guys! Here are a few tough ones that I own.

DixieBaseball · #12 01-04-2015, 10:04 PM

Incredible bouquet of cardboard in this thread. The Holmes Joe and the Baltimore Ruth are easily my personal favorites, but those Nadja & Williams Wags are way more scarce than the T206 Wagner and awesome. The Type 1 Coupons are not even fighting fair as most of those are at 10-15 examples or less and not even close to the T-Wags. Seeing all this talent really makes me even question why the T206 Wags is valued so high. This may sound crazy, but I don't think I would want to invest 6 figures in it. What makes it worth so much? There is no rarity. Perhaps minimal scarcity. Only bloated fascination that has amplified over the decades. To be clear I am not a hater (just don't understand is more like it...) and think it's a neat card but so many more HOFer's in the T206 set are more scarce with backs like Lenox, etc. Let me digress and throw a few more that are way more scarce than the T-Wags. Great net 54 participation! Keep em coming.

DixieBaseball · #13 01-04-2015, 10:08 PM

2 more rare Bays... One being from T-Wag's set and much more scarce.

Leon · #14 01-05-2015, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DixieBaseball

.... Seeing all this talent really makes me even question why the T206 Wags is valued so high. This may sound crazy, but I don't think I would want to invest 6 figures in it. What makes it worth so much? There is no rarity. Perhaps minimal scarcity. Only bloated fascination that has amplified over the decades. To be clear I am not a hater (just don't understand is more like it...) and think it's a neat card but so many more HOFer's in the T206 set are more scarce with backs like Lenox, etc. .....

The value of the T206 Wags has very little to do with rarity (population) as it has more to do with scarcity (people wanting one). I venture to guess I have literally hundreds, maybe a thousand, cards more rare than Wags...but none remotely as valuable..

tedzan · #15 01-03-2015, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Ted there are also 44 sgc graded ones. And who knows how many ungraded. Not saying it isn't a very tough card, just saying it isn't Wagner in terms of scarcity.

I really don't want to belabor this....but, I have seen the SGC pop data; and, I'm suspicious of the numbers.

When I see Graded numbers bunched together (as they are in SGC's data on Paige), then I'd bet these #'s are the results of quite a number of re-grades.

Of the 44 graded ones, my guess is there are no more than 25 "unique" Paige cards.

Where does this leave us......approximately 100 "unique" 1949 Leaf Paige cards in circulation.

Whoops ! ....I forgot my ungraded Paige......so, there are 101.

Eventually, I predict that the number of T206 Wagner's will approach 100.

T-Rex TED
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Peter_Spaeth · #16 01-03-2015, 10:45 AM

Ted are you saying that yours is the only one left ungraded? Even if you are right there are only 100 graded ones, I am sure there are many ungraded ones as well.

seattlerainiers · #17 01-03-2015, 10:50 AM

Rare is an understatement here:

Tom S. · #18 01-03-2015, 12:49 PM

Any card from this set would qualify...

tedzan · #19 01-03-2015, 03:08 PM

It's my understanding that this T3 Doolan with the Turkey Red adv. back is very rare (considerably less than 50 examples).

T3 experts....please confirm, or correct me, regarding this observation

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TED Z
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tedzan · #20 01-03-2015, 09:06 PM

TED Z
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joeadcock · #21 01-03-2015, 10:59 PM

Very low pops on these:

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