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Old 01-08-2015, 03:40 AM
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In May of 2014, the 1st known graded variant of the 1958 Aaron , "BLUE BACKGROUND" that listed the ERROR, (Graded with Variation listed as, "MISSING YELLOW INK") card sold on the public market! A NR MT +, (6.5) example, bar code log # 0008046099, being the 1st to set a president as a collectors error variation. Pictured below is the long awaited arrival of the newest addition of the industry's officially recognized variation to the 1958 Topps MLB set! Thanks Beckett, for being the 1st in the industry to recognize this cool version as a rare collectible within this set! Congrats to all of those that have secured one of these '58 Aaron Blue background cards!

http://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-ca...#1126011260992

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Old 01-08-2015, 05:03 AM
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In May of 2014, the 1st known graded variant of the 1958 Aaron , "BLUE BACKGROUND" that listed the ERROR, (Graded with Variation listed as, "MISSING YELLOW INK") card sold on the public market! A NR MT +, (6.5) example, bar code log # 0008046099, being the 1st to set a president as a collectors error variation. Pictured below is the long awaited arrival of the newest addition of the industry's officially recognized variation to the 1958 Topps MLB set! Thanks Beckett, for being the 1st in the industry to recognize this cool version as a rare collectible within this set! Congrats to all of those that have secured one of these '58 Aaron Blue background cards!

http://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-ca...#1126011260992

...it was never about the bubble gum
This is a bad move because the blue background can be replicated in 2015.

I'm skeptical of any Topps card that had green coloring and is now blue.
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Old 01-08-2015, 07:06 AM
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Awesome! I'm going to quick buy a few green background Aarons' before they become the SP.
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Old 01-08-2015, 07:16 AM
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Although I have one, I agree with Brent that one will never know if a blue Aaron is an actual unintended recurring manufacture print defect ( which many would say should not qualify as a variation in any event), or a unintentional or intentional creation by light damage. The fact there are not a lot of other blue background cards ( from the same sheet... I know some have surfaced), also is a red flag to me.

Maybe I should submit this one now


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Old 01-08-2015, 08:15 AM
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WOW just F'n wow. Those cards did not leave the factory blue, no way no how. The Beckett one is an obvious altered card.

As someone who mainly collects error cards I can say from experience that over 95% of so called missing color cards are altered. In hand most are very easy to spot if you know what to look for.

I picked up a beat to heck 58 Aaron from a fellow board member to show what to look for in this card when someone turns it blue. I have been to busy(lazy) to get it done but looks like I need to so fellow board members are not scammed anymore.

Here is a picture of another 58 Topps to show a before and after removing the yellow. On the 58 cards the yellow is very easy to remove and the other 3 colors are very hard to remove making them look real easier than most other cards. I also removed the yellow from the other card and as you can see it left a slightly more noticeable alteration.
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Old 01-08-2015, 09:13 AM
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I used to think these were really cool variations but I am now of a mind that they are faded. The examples of fades in the other thread were persuasive and now we have a home-made example.
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Old 01-08-2015, 12:31 PM
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Ben, You say the altered cards are easy to spot, can you tell us how?
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WOW just F'n wow. Those cards did not leave the factory blue, no way no how. The Beckett one is an obvious altered card.

As someone who mainly collects error cards I can say from experience that over 95% of so called missing color cards are altered. In hand most are very easy to spot if you know what to look for.

I picked up a beat to heck 58 Aaron from a fellow board member to show what to look for in this card when someone turns it blue. I have been to busy(lazy) to get it done but looks like I need to so fellow board members are not scammed anymore.

Here is a picture of another 58 Topps to show a before and after removing the yellow. On the 58 cards the yellow is very easy to remove and the other 3 colors are very hard to remove making them look real easier than most other cards. I also removed the yellow from the other card and as you can see it left a slightly more noticeable alteration.
$1,000,000 question.............How is the yellow so easily removed without damaging the card ?

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$1,000,000 question.............How is the yellow so easily removed without damaging the card ?
Actually it appears to be a $3,585.00 question. One that many will figure out soon enough now that they know it can be done and they can get paid for doing it.
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Old 01-08-2015, 04:47 PM
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$1,000,000 question.............How is the yellow so easily removed without damaging the card ?
Like Al said just put it in sunlight. Those cards are the easiest to spot as being altered. The ones done in direct sunlight usually get a dirty dry look to the gloss. The card will also usually get a wavy effect to it like it got damp once.

Then there is the way the yellow ink looks. The key is no matter if there is very little(barely notice) or a lot(regular color) the yellow will be a bright yellow. If it is not a bright yellow it is because it had been faded. The best place to look on the Aaron card is around the Indian in the logo. Notice every one pictured in this thread and every other one you have ever seen has varying degrees of a dull yellow.

Now for the better done ones. They are not wavy, gloss look good, and looks to be no yellow in the circle. These need a 10X loupe to spot in a well naturally lit area. The white in the logo will not be as bright as the white on any other part of the card. Also a quick look with a 60-100X top lighted microscope works pretty well.

There is another thread on here that I have pictures of real missing yellow cards and how to spot them. I do not know how to link to it or I would. I believe someone also posted some great pics that showed where the price sticker was. It was also discussing the 58 Blue Aaron.
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