The Scoundrel HOF

[baseballart]

I am very puzzled by a nomination of Marvin Miller, unless one is a fan of labour laws in 19th century England. Even so, a scoundrel?

[asoriano]

Bonds
Rodriguez
Selig

[packs]

Jake Powell, a real dirt bag.

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by packs

Jake Powell, a real dirt bag.

Much more deserving, IMHO, than Ben Chapman, who was a product of his upbringing (not much of an excuse) but matured and became a much better human being as he got older. From what I've read, Powell was a SOB till the end.

[ElCabron]

Anson
Cobb
Landis

[ALR-bishop]

Originally Posted by baseballart

I am very puzzled by a nomination of Marvin Miller, unless one is a fan of labour laws in 19th century England. Even so, a scoundrel?

My only complaint against Mr Miller was his apparent negative impact on the Topps 1968 set and the 1969 set, at least the first four series

[PM770]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

My only complaint against Mr Miller was his apparent negative impact on the Topps 1968 set and the 1969 set, at least the first four series

I'll admit my ignorance and/or my sarcasm meter is broken, but waht did he do to the 1968 & 69 Topps sets?

[conor912]

Originally Posted by baseballart

I am very puzzled by a nomination of Marvin Miller, unless one is a fan of labour laws in 19th century England. Even so, a scoundrel?

IMO, he changed the course of the game in a very negative way. I'm not necessarily anti-union, but at the end of the day, he's the reason why so many American families can no longer afford a day at the ballpark. Under his watch, baseball went from blue collar entertainment to white collar privilege, and took a significant amount of soul out of the game in the process. I realize if it hadn't been him, it would have been someone else at some point, but Miller gets the dubious honor of holding the shit end of the stick in my mind.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by conor912

IMO, he changed the course of the game in a very negative way. I'm not necessarily anti-union, but at the end of the day, he's the reason why so many American families can no longer afford a day at the ballpark. Under his watch, baseball went from blue collar entertainment to white collar privilege, and took a significant amount of soul out of the game in the process. I realize if it hadn't been him, it would have been someone else at some point, but Miller gets the dubious honor of holding the shit end of the stick in my mind.

A post of this type will be counted as a nominating vote. The vermin are beginning to rise to the top, just like the cream in those old milk bottles. Any glass milk bottle collectors out there? Remember when milk was delivered. Anybody look like their Mom's milkman? Excuse my digression. Carry on.

[dgo71]

Originally Posted by conor912

IMO, he changed the course of the game in a very negative way. I'm not necessarily anti-union, but at the end of the day, he's the reason why so many American families can no longer afford a day at the ballpark. Under his watch, baseball went from blue collar entertainment to white collar privilege, and took a significant amount of soul out of the game in the process. I realize if it hadn't been him, it would have been someone else at some point, but Miller gets the dubious honor of holding the shit end of the stick in my mind.

Prices for tickets to a baseball game, on average, are lower than every other major sport, and lower than the NFL average by more than half. Miller began his run almost 50 years ago, prices for everything in the world has risen exponentially in that time. What Miller did was take away the monopoly the owners had and give leverage to the men who were actually on the field earning those dollars. JMO, Miller should be in the HOF, not the HOS.