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01-08-2015, 09:45 PM
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I would count Smoltz's 1988 Fleer update card his rookie and Biggios 1988 Fleer update and Score update his rookies. No 1989s should count in my book.
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01-08-2015, 11:51 PM
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Rob:
The proper classification to me is labeling the 1988 Fleer Update and Score Traded cards as XRC (Extended Rookie Cards) and the 1989 issues as RC's (Rookie Cards). This practice began in 1981 with the first Topps Traded set. Topps did produce a couple of traded sets during the mid-1970's as well but no rookies unless you count the '76 Willie Randolph (who already appeared in the '76 base set also). That being said, I agree with Randy that my card(s) of choice for Smoltz & Biggio are the 1988's, I never collected the 1989's. Last edited by bcbgcbrcb; 01-08-2015 at 11:51 PM.
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01-09-2015, 06:19 AM
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I would consider the first time appearance in a licensed Minor League team sets, before the regular and update sets to be the true rookie
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01-09-2015, 08:08 AM
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Rookies
I am contemplating this....pre rookies....extended rookies....rookies.
I had not realized that this area of the hobby was as complicated as deciding what is and is not a variation :-0 At least for Topps and Fleer I think I am ok, however it comes out, since I have all their sets 
Last edited by ALR-bishop; 01-09-2015 at 08:53 AM.
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01-09-2015, 08:31 AM
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The pre-rookie is still a rookie than the player's first appearance in a Topps Donruss or Fleer would be considered their first card appearance not a rookie card for those sets
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01-09-2015, 08:33 AM
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I'm with you on the '88s, I would consider them the RC. I hated the whole "XRC" thing. Wasn't that something that Beckett created?
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01-09-2015, 08:58 AM
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Rookies
I was only half kidding about the variations analogy. There is no one accepted hobby definition of a variation. I assume the same is true for "rookie card". Just many view points.
I realize prices for the newly inducted folks may be in a state of flux at this point, but of the cards mentioned for these players does one or the other(s) carry a premium over it's "competitors" in the hobby currently ? Last edited by ALR-bishop; 01-09-2015 at 09:16 AM.
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