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Old 01-14-2015, 10:15 AM
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There is a perception that if you buy a card at an asking price that you must have overpaid for it. When you buy at auction, you are (shilling aside) buying the item at a nominal increment above the next highest bidder. It is a closer approximation of true market value at that moment in time and under those circumstances. That is why auction values are most useful in determining markets (VCP, card target, etc.), and why triggered BINs only tell you what one person was willing to pay at a certain point in time.

I recently had a guy try to sell me a card I valued at $50 for $250 because that was what he paid for it in a private sale. That $250 is an irrelevant number unless there was someone also willing to pay $240 for it. You'd like to know there may be other potential buyers out there for your card than the seller himself, who is getting out of the market on that card.

I assume this phenomenon would hold true for all scarce collectibles, where markets can more easily be determined at auction than in private sales. The rise in small auction houses exists in response to the decline of eBay as a global auction house.
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There is a perception that if you buy a card at an asking price that you must have overpaid for it. When you buy at auction, you are (shilling aside) buying the item at a nominal increment above the next highest bidder. It is a closer approximation of true market value at that moment in time and under those circumstances. That is why auction values are most useful in determining markets (VCP, card target, etc.), and why triggered BINs only tell you what one person was willing to pay at a certain point in time.

I recently had a guy try to sell me a card I valued at $50 for $250 because that was what he paid for it in a private sale. That $250 is an irrelevant number unless there was someone also willing to pay $240 for it. You'd like to know there may be other potential buyers out there for your card than the seller himself, who is getting out of the market on that card.

I assume this phenomenon would hold true for all scarce collectibles, where markets can more easily be determined at auction than in private sales. The rise in small auction houses exists in response to the decline of eBay as a global auction house.
the logic of the underbidder really only matters about how many bidders...

if a card sells for 250 and there was someone willing to bid 240 it..thats great ..but what if the item was bid to 250 based on just those 2 bidders from 150.......so buy it nows tell you only about one guy....but on some auction houses...what a card sells for is only between 2 guys....and 1 guy already has the card now......at least on ebay you can see the amount of unique bidders at a certain price point...you don't get to see that at other houses........yes its a better tool than buy it nows but maybe not by as much as you think
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