Another Antiques Roadshow Tobacco collection.. Wow!

[ullmandds]

Amazing condition cards...too bad they didn't show more types of cards in the collection.

[gregr2]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Amazing condition cards...too bad they didn't show more types of cards in the collection.

Agree with that, she had a bunch of cards, would have been nice if they had shown a larger variety.

[autocentral]

Awesome collection. Thanks for sharing.

[K-Nole]

That show made me hate my relatives from back in 1909-1912!!!

Why couldn't they have collected them????

Ain't nothin' wrong with a high grade AB Cobb!

[vintagesportscollector]

Anyone else think some of those cards looked trimmed?

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by vintagesportscollector

Anyone else think some of those cards looked trimmed?

If you're referring to the t206's they were likely all american beautys...which "are" trimmed by their nature!

[kmac32]

nice T205 Tinker, Evers, and Chance cards

[Bieg]

She is married.

Simeon was speaking a bit figuratively when he said ALL American Beauty Backs, he was referring to the T206s which 105 out of 109 are.

The T205s are a mixture of American Beauty, Hassan, Honest & Sweet Caporal. There are 139 of them all together.

The T202 are obviously Hassan. There are 87 of them and they are all as nice as the ones on the board.

The entire collection consists of these 3 sets and totals 335. Only 2 or 3 cards total would be rated less than Very Good.

They are in GREAT shape as they rarely ever saw the light of day so the colors are not faded at all. They were kept for the better part of 100+ years in a cigar box on a shelf where nobody messed with them.

She has been in possession of them since she was a little girl and her mom had the foresight to keep them on a high shelf where she could not play with them as a child. She loves the artwork on them and has become a student of the dead ball era because of them.

The Tinker, Evers & Chance cards were put in Lucite to represent the poem, "Baseball's Sad Lexicon" by Franklin Pierce Adams

These are the saddest of possible words:
"Tinker to Evers to Chance."
Trio of bear cubs, and fleeter than birds,
Tinker and Evers and Chance.
Ruthlessly pricking our gonfalon bubble,
Making a Giant hit into a double-
Words that are heavy with nothing but trouble:
"Tinker to Evers to Chance."

They have since been removed and put in individual hard cases (single brass screw) as have ALL of the cards (except the T202s which are in collector currency sleeves).

The collection has been locked in a Bank safe deposit box and insured

She loves her collection and knew they were worth a lot of money so she was not that surprised when Simeon Lipman told her the amount. She went to the Antiques Roadshow to document the collection and get a rough appraisal without having to let the cards out of her sight.

The cards are NOT for sale at this time but she is glad to have them in case of an emergency.

Some tweets from Simeon during the broadcast about the collection;


Jan 19
Amazing things are found in old cigar boxes! #antiquesroadshow @RoadshowPBS

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Jan 19
The corners of those cards were so sharp you could cut yourself #antiquesroadshow @RoadshowPBS

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Jan 19
Magnificent tobacco card collection, a true family treasure #antiquesroadshow @RoadshowPBS

The entire collection as been studio photographed front and back (composite picture made for each card showing front & back in single photo), and indexed by file name which follow the collectors naming protocol so they match the established check lists. These things were all done between the time the actual roadshow filming was done, August 9, 2014 and the airdate of January 19, 2015. The thought was there would be a lot of publicity and she wanted to get this collection locked in a bank vault and insured in case some mutt recognized her and tried to rob her home. The safe deposit box is light tight and in a climate controlled environment so she is happy about that. For those that don't know they are not insured by the bank or the government and very few homeowners policies will cover baseball cards and those that will won't go up to 200 grand. Fortunately there is an insurance company that does nothing but insure safe deposit boxes and they are reasonable.

She is not into the actual hobby of collecting like the folks on this forum but has benefitted from the wisdom found on this site and other Tobacco card sites on the net. She is VERY distrustful of all the scams in this world though and that is why she went to the Roadshow because whatever is told to her becomes a matter of public record and the appraisers can have no vested interest in her collection. She liked Simeon Lipman very much and he was very kind to her and very helpful.


By the way
She got a kick out of being called "Uber-Cute" so thanks to that gentleman for that.

Hope this answers some of your questions about her collection.

BTW I am her husband.

[GrayGhost]

wow

[Bieg]

Actually this one has the same error. Only difference is hers has a Hassan back


http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/..._fall/216.html

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Bieg

Actually this one has the same error. Only difference is hers has a Hassan back


http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/..._fall/216.html

Welcome to the board and thanks for coming on and posting. That T205 in your post, from Robert Edward Auctions, is graded an 8 and is very high for the series. As you probably know condition is a key to value and the gold border cards were notorious for flaking. Good luck with everything.

[freakhappy]

Wow! Thanks Bieg for coming on here and sharing this information with us...such a pleasure to know more about this great collection. It's also great knowing that you two are taking the proper measures to protect the cards and yourselves through this whole process.

A lot of people on here will be very grateful that you shared this info and will be happy to help you out once tomorrow hits...a lot of very knowledgeable people that can answer most likely any question you have for them.

One thing...is there a checklist of all of the cards that you have or is that being kept confidential for some reason? Thanks and good luck with everything!

[mrvster]

I was wondering about the T206 AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 and 350 NO FRAMES...

I have the T206 AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 NO FRAME SUBSET almost complete (35 out of the 37 cards )....and I am looking for the JOHNSON and MAGEE. to complete it....please see if these 2 are available????

please look also, if there are any T206 American beauty 460 NO FRAMES

some common combos are VERY RARE!!! and may not seem like a big deal, but are very low populations......TED Z can explain more....

TED Z needs a few to complete the 460 set (10 or so).....


can you PLEASE list what you have in the collection(t206 ab 350 and 460 NO FRAME??? I'm very curious

many of us here can give you a REALLY ACCURATE MARKET VALUE APP. of the entire collection...just post/ask....

TURNER is a T205 expert as many here are in certain issues just from chasing them for years....



PLEASE let us see the collection....you may have a hidden gem somewhere...

any other T206 backs??? RARE ONES?? hindu??? broadleaf?? ect?? freaks??

just dreaming...





email me with any T206 questions at any time

Peace

Johnny

[Bieg]

She has the Magee 350 no frame in pretty much the same shape as the Cobb but she is not looking to sell anything at this time. If and when she does I promise to let this forum know.

I have the whole collection indexed and all the photos in indexed order in a PDF but it is entirely my wife's call on who gets to see that.

I think she might be amiable if one or two of the acknowledged experts here wanted to evaluate it and give her a more precise value.

Originally Posted by mrvster

I was wondering about the T206 AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 and 350 NO FRAMES...

I have the T206 AMERICAN BEAUTY 350 NO FRAME SUBSET almost complete (35 out of the 37 cards )....and I am looking for the JOHNSON and MAGEE. to complete it....please see if these 2 are available????

please look also, if there are any T206 American beauty 460 NO FRAMES

some common combos are VERY RARE!!! and may not seem like a big deal, but are very low populations......TED Z can explain more....

TED Z needs a few to complete the 460 set (10 or so).....


can you PLEASE list what you have in the collection(t206 ab 350 and 460 NO FRAME??? I'm very curious

many of us here can give you a REALLY ACCURATE MARKET VALUE APP. of the entire collection...just post/ask....

TURNER is a T205 expert as many here are in certain issues just from chasing them for years....



PLEASE let us see the collection....you may have a hidden gem somewhere...

any other T206 backs??? RARE ONES?? hindu??? broadleaf?? ect?? freaks??

just dreaming...





email me with any T206 questions at any time

Peace

Johnny

[clydepepper]

I wish my Topps cards from the 1970s were in that good a condition. WOW!

just goes to show you, guys...keep your fingers crossed, your eyes open, and your hopes and dreams still have a slim chance of occurring. LOL

The lesson here, seriously, is a firm reminder to treat the older folks right - which we should all do anyway...I just am more aware of that need since I turned 59...one of the very few things I am more aware of these days.

[jcc6252]

Gives me chills.