SGC you need new holders.

vthobby · #1 01-21-2015, 05:06 PM

If you want cards that will not move around, look cool in their little protective airtight inner sleeve, then slab with BVG. Beckett rules in this area alone!

Damn....where is that retainer they put me on...??hmm.....

At some point (and I'm amazed it has not been addressed yet) a company has to realize they are shooting themselves in the proverbial foot by not listening to its core customers. Biz 101. AKA....common sense or is it Customer Service?

peace, mike

tiger8mush · #2 01-21-2015, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by vtgmsc

If you want cards that will not move around, look cool in their little protective airtight inner sleeve, then slab with BVG. Beckett rules in this area alone!

I'm in the minority, but I agree with you Mike. If I had to choose a TPG to protect my card for the next 100 years, I'm going with Beckett (for the record I store most of mine raw in binders or boxes cuz slabs take up too much space). I believe they are good at authenticating and grading as well. We've seen errors by all 3 top TPGs, and Beckett is no different, but the masses prefer SGC and PSA I believe cuz of their registry (which leads to higher resale value). To each their own, no wrong way to collect.

Rob

CW · #3 01-21-2015, 09:44 PM

Thanks, Eric. I just copied your email and inserted my name at the end and sent it off to SGC. Hopefully someone listens and does something about it, because I'm tired of bitching.

pclpads · #4 01-21-2015, 11:19 PM

I know this board tends to go ballistic whenever anything positive is said about PSA. But for the reasons mentioned by the OP and the fact that clearly o/c cards don't seem to faze SGC for slabbing them in higher grades is why I never sub to them. And no, I am not a PSA shareholder and JO is not a relative.

freakhappy · #5 01-21-2015, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pclpads

I know this board tends to go ballistic whenever anything positive is said about PSA. But for the reasons mentioned by the OP and the fact that clearly o/c cards don't seem to faze SGC for slabbing them in higher grades is why I never sub to them. And no, I am not a PSA shareholder and JO is not a relative.

Lol, people love their grading companies!

I don't necessarily prefer one over the other as I collect any card in any of the three main TPG's that passes the eye test. Bob has a great point about the SGC holders...they are really starting to suck and get on a lot of people's nerves. Where's the quality control at? We pay for a service and we should get quality in return, not this shaky holder that for some reason failed to evolve with time.

One thing that I believe SGC has over PSA and BVG is that I feel I can trust, for the most part, things like paper loss being somewhere on the card when it's not supposed to be there. When I buy a VG graded card, paper loss should not be anywhere, but I've noticed it a lot more on PSA graded cards than SGC. Sometimes I feel like I get on seller's nerves because I always ask them a lot of questions about the condition, but because of these inconsistencies I feel like I have to ask to save me some issues down the road.

Anyway...SGC...get your crap together if you want to continue being a top notch grading company. Don't let something this small sink your ship!

brewing · #6 01-22-2015, 06:33 AM

Why fix the gasket issue and not address the tamper issue? PSA came out with more secure holders and now SGC leads the industry in easiest to tamper holders.

I've been an SGC fan for a long time, but my last 3 subs went to PSA.

t206hound · #7 01-22-2015, 10:15 AM

I believe this was the latest response from SGC on the gaskets... from the thread "Is this typical for SGC holders?"

http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...9&postcount=57

glchen · #8 01-22-2015, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by pclpads

I know this board tends to go ballistic whenever anything positive is said about PSA. But for the reasons mentioned by the OP and the fact that clearly o/c cards don't seem to faze SGC for slabbing them in higher grades is why I never sub to them. And no, I am not a PSA shareholder and JO is not a relative.

Don't forget that PSA has its own holder issues which are similar to SGC's such as the cases where the card "floats" in the holder. This occurs where the PSA insert doesn't fit the card size very well, so the card floats inside the holder. Can't find the thread, but I remember there was an example in an auction where there was a high grade PSA card was floating diagonally inside the holder. In terms of pure card protection, Beckett is probably still the best as the insert typically always matches the card, and the holder is a brick so it's practically tamper proof.

iwantitiwinit · #9 01-22-2015, 07:09 PM

Received an email back from Dave Forman at SGC earlier today. I'm not going to post it here but he is aware of the problem and working to resolve it. If he gives me anymore specifics I will let you know.

sb1 · #10 04-29-2015, 02:36 PM

I cracked one of the new label oversize holders today and it had not one but two gaskets, so apparently they have begun to use that strategy to keep cards from sliding over or under the gaskets, especially while being tossed around in transit.

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