2015 NFL Playoff Pool

johnmh71 · #1 02-02-2015, 06:53 PM

And done what with the ball? Hail Mary? Against Seattle's secondary? The game was at the one yard line. Kudos to the Pats D for making a play.

Runscott · #2 02-02-2015, 07:07 PM

Amazing that Belichek did not call the time-out. Has anyone heard him say why he did not?

Listening to Pete Carroll's explanation of the play call, and some of the guys on ESPN, I'm feeling a little less sick to my stomach. I guess the odds of that interception being made are probably about the same as someone stripping Russell or Marshawn of the football, or of them getting backed up and having to pass on the final play.

Who knows. Fortunately, my only decision was whether to order a Stout or a Brown ale.

Peter_Spaeth · #3 02-02-2015, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Runscott

Amazing that Belichek did not call the time-out. Has anyone heard him say why he did not?

Listening to Pete Carroll's explanation of the play call, and some of the guys on ESPN, I'm feeling a little less sick to my stomach. I guess the odds of that interception being made are probably about the same as someone stripping Russell or Marshawn of the football, or of them getting backed up and having to pass on the final play.

Who knows. Fortunately, my only decision was whether to order a Stout or a Brown ale.

Not sure about that. According to Butler, he anticipated the play because he had seen them run it in film, and also because Wilson looked in his direction right before the snap.

Pat R · #4 02-02-2015, 07:29 PM

I think Belichicks no time out call may have been brilliant, if he calls time out it gives Carroll time to think about it and he probably would have went with
a run play.

Peter_Spaeth · #5 02-02-2015, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat R

I think Belichicks no time out call may have been brilliant, if he calls time out it gives Carroll time to think about it and he probably would have went with
a run play.

What the hell was there to think about? You have the ball at the one yard line, two time outs and the best running back in football. I see no brilliance and I do not buy the story I read that somehow he "tricked" Seattle into passing. Seattle f-ed up, badly. Period.

As for the non-time out, the rationalizations to me are 20-20 in the rear view mirror. It worked out for him, so no questions were asked. As great a coach as he is, I see it as a lapse.

vintagetoppsguy · #6 02-02-2015, 08:03 PM

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itjclarke · #7 02-02-2015, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

What the hell was there to think about? You have the ball at the one yard line, two time outs and the best running back in football. I see no brilliance and I do not buy the story I read that somehow he "tricked" Seattle into passing. Seattle f-ed up, badly. Period.

As for the non-time out, the rationalizations to me are 20-20 in the rear view mirror. It worked out for him, so no questions were asked. As great a coach as he is, I see it as a lapse.

100% agree. It worked out well for them not calling a TO, but not due to some sort of coaching brilliance. It would have been unquestionably the right coaching decision to call TO on D. If your D steps up and holds them, Seattle only has 1 TO left, so you can definitely run out the clock... If Seattle scores, you'll have 50 seconds to a minute to get into FG. Not sure why it seems so improbable for the Pats to get into FG in 50 or seconds ( "hail mary"?), when we'd seen Seattle go 80 yards in 29 seconds.. And also seen Brady lead the Pats to TDs on his previous to drives against the Hawks' great secondary.

Runscott · #8 02-02-2015, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Not sure about that. According to Butler, he anticipated the play because he had seen them run it in film, and also because Wilson looked in his direction right before the snap.

C'mon Peter - let me rationalize.

I need a Dallas vs Seattle NFC Championship game next year. I'm going to work real hard this year to build up my karma through positive interactions on this forum....

...who am I kidding?

Peter_Spaeth · #9 02-02-2015, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by johnmh71

And done what with the ball? Hail Mary? Against Seattle's secondary? The game was at the one yard line. Kudos to the Pats D for making a play.

Huh? Suppose he takes the timeout. On the first play, Seattle scores a touchdown and they are up by three. They then kick off, and NE has a minute or so to get into field goal range. Odds are against them, but far from impossible, and no Hail Mary. Of course you try to stop them, but no reason I see to let time run off the clock unnecessarily.

johnmh71 · #10 02-03-2015, 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Huh? Suppose he takes the timeout. On the first play, Seattle scores a touchdown and they are up by three. They then kick off, and NE has a minute or so to get into field goal range. Odds are against them, but far from impossible, and no Hail Mary. Of course you try to stop them, but no reason I see to let time run off the clock unnecessarily.

By the time they got the ball back, there would have been more like 45 seconds and the ball probably would have been at their 20. Did you see the first Super Bowl against the Giants? They supposedly had time for a final drive in that game and ended up heaving the ball at the end. I'm glad Belichick played it the way he did.

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