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Old 02-09-2015, 11:44 AM
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I saw these the other day in the HA auction. Just doesn't add up for me. Interested in hearing the experts chime in on these.
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Old 02-09-2015, 11:52 AM
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did Joe all of a sudden learn how to write that day
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Old 02-09-2015, 12:04 PM
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A very large and reasonably neat signature AND INSCRIPTION,,,in my opinion very typical of Joe Jackson. NOT !!
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Old 02-09-2015, 12:06 PM
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The inscriptions on the photos is noted as being in the hand of the photographer, for what it's worth.
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Old 02-09-2015, 01:03 PM
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The autograph from the photographer is worth the same as the Joe Jackson signature.
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In comparing this signature to my Joe Jackson auto ( I own his signed 1945 South Carolina driver's license ) and checking those on the PSA autograph facts site I have no confidence in this piece. IMO it is just too neat and too perfect for something signed by Joe, especially signed in 1911 when his career was just beginning to take off and getting the recognition that comes with that. His handwriting at that time would, in my opinion , be as "rough " and unformed as ever since he was young and not accustomed to signing anything he would not have to. A young illiterate man I can't fathom signing that neatly, when his other signatures from the rest of his career/life are not that smooth looking.
I would not bid on it ...I maybe wrong , but I would not let the lure of this photo suck me in.

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The article makes it sound like PSA assessed the prints themselves as from the same period as the autographs (1911). PSA is pretty good about getting print age correct.

Heritage uses the term "ironclad provenance" to describe the Mathewson signature. Since they came from the same scrapbook, the Jackson must have the same ironclad provenance: "Bowen's husband, Bill, first saw the scrapbook about 10 years ago. It was stored in a barn near Cleveland and belonged to a couple whose family was friends with Frank W. Smith, a photographer with the Plain Dealer newspaper."

I think it's really neat how this stuff gets found in barns.

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That "Jackson" is just as good as the rest of the signatures in the grouping. Did you see the "Mathewson"?
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