Rare Shoeless Joe Jackson autograph

[Runscott]

We should start a thread about 'most convincing stories about expensive autographs that turned out to be bullshit'. I think you would be amazed at all the sweet little old ladies and wonderful loving grandfathers, who somehow had their items switched out at some point for forgeries. Maybe it was while they were in the barn?

[w7imel]

Originally Posted by Runscott

We should start a thread about 'most convincing stories about expensive autographs that turned out to be bullshit'. I think you would be amazed at all the sweet little old ladies and wonderful loving grandfathers, who somehow had their items switched out at some point for forgeries. Maybe it was while they were in the barn?

Im not saying its not all bullshit but I would love to see a perfect collection like this for once to be real. If and only if that Jackson auto is real, it was wonderfully preserved for sure. Ive seen some great storys about items. There is an ebay listing now for an uncertified Maris photo signed. The seller says " I know this one is real because all the real ones on ebay are 8.5 x 11" Every time I read that it makes me laugh!

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by w7imel

Im not saying its not all bullshit but I would love to see a perfect collection like this for once to be real. If and only if that Jackson auto is real, it was wonderfully preserved for sure. Ive seen some great storys about items. There is an ebay listing now for an uncertified Maris photo signed. The seller says " I know this one is real because all the real ones on ebay are 8.5 x 11" Every time I read that it makes me laugh!

And almost all of the Mantle, Williams and Joe D. that are 4x6 are fake.
Right, Florida??

[Runscott]

Originally Posted by w7imel

Im not saying its not all bullshit but I would love to see a perfect collection like this for once to be real.

Agreed. I hope it is all real. I think it will hinge on the Mathewson - if the experts give it the 'thumbs down', the Jackson will fall as well. But that's only here.

The goal is to sell this stuff to deep-pockets boys who don't frequent our board. As long as the item is 'believable' to them, that is all that counts. If the AH voices enough faith in the item via their advertising and catalogs (and 'expert' TPAs ), the marks will bid.

[David Atkatz]

I don't care what the "experts" say. They each have a dog in this fight.

The Jackson and Mathewson are bad.

(isn't it amazing? The two most valuable signatures (by far!) don't look anything like they should.)

[jad22]

Originally Posted by David Atkatz

I don't care what the "experts" say. They each have a dog in this fight.

The Jackson and Mathewson are bad.

(isn't it amazing? The two most valuable signatures (by far!) don't look anything like they should.)

What is the tip off on the Mathewson that you see? I am just curious. I know very little about his signature. Seems like nobody knows if the biography signatures were ghost signed or not. Some say fake and others say real.

[Runscott]

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[jad22]

Originally Posted by Runscott

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I just remember reading in Keurajian's book that he had not seen an authentic signed "Won in the Ninth".

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by Runscott

We should start a thread about 'most convincing stories about expensive autographs that turned out to be bullshit'. I think you would be amazed at all the sweet little old ladies and wonderful loving grandfathers, who somehow had their items switched out at some point for forgeries. Maybe it was while they were in the barn?

Oh man, I could use a lie detector in my place. The stories that I hear
However, some of them fortunately turn out to be true. But I am always skeptical.