Values on the rise for pre-war?

[BBB]

In a lull it is. Even the 1933 Goudey Ruths seem to be somewhat flat. Some hit the market in the PWCC auction and went a little above, a little below and right on value.

Good point on the CJs flattening out about 6 months ago. Guess it was all the documentation on the 100th anniversary that riled folks up. I know it had me looking at my 1915s and wondering if I should trade some out for a cool factor 1914 (but didn't want to buy high).

As tough as pre-war can be to track, the 19th century stuff is just about impossible (for me). There are so few that they constantly look up and down at the same time due to a couple sales here n there.

Looking forward to seeing more action in the market once baseball season gears up. I know the pre-war stuff is year-round market for the die hards, but general baseball hype does seem to have an effect anyhow.

[wolf441]

Originally Posted by BBB

Good point on the CJs flattening out about 6 months ago. Guess it was all the documentation on the 100th anniversary that riled folks up. I know it had me looking at my 1915s and wondering if I should trade some out for a cool factor 1914 (but didn't want to buy high).

Mark it down, my case of 1987 Topps will be ON FIRE in 2087!!! I'll be long gone, but still...

[Brian Van Horn]

Originally Posted by wolf441

Mark it down, my case of 1987 Topps will be ON FIRE in 2087!!! I'll be long gone, but still...

We have an optimist in our midst !

[BBB]

All it will take is a couple hundred million more to hit the trash can lol

Originally Posted by wolf441

Mark it down, my case of 1987 Topps will be ON FIRE in 2087!!! I'll be long gone, but still...

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by BBB

All it will take is a couple hundred million more to hit the trash can lol

what is the most any graded 1987 topps card has sold for in the past 5 years?

[glchen]

Not sure about 1987 Topps, but a 1986 Topps Jerry Rice recently sold for $12K: Link

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by glchen

Not sure about 1987 Topps, but a 1986 Topps Jerry Rice recently sold for $12K: Link

so maybe it wouldn't of been a bad idea to save those 1987 topps football when everyone pre-bubble thought they would be worth keeping..maybe they were right! maybe the bubble never burst..

(incidentally I checked the Rice link... Four bid retractions? when the card was in the 10k range? fishy?)

was asking about 1987 topps baseball actually though...

[jcmtiger]

Originally Posted by glchen

Not sure about 1987 Topps, but a 1986 Topps Jerry Rice recently sold for $12K: Link

"Insane!!!!!!!"

Joe

[darwinbulldog]

Yeah, well, Jerry Rice is the greatest receiver in NFL history, and that's a rookie card. Clearly it's overpriced by any of our standards, but it does make more sense than this:

http://smalltraditions.com/1986-topp...r-lot2473.aspx

[z28jd]

Originally Posted by wolf441

Mark it down, my case of 1987 Topps will be ON FIRE in 2087!!! I'll be long gone, but still...

You know if that case was literally on fire now, it would eventually help the prices down the line. Do the right thing for the people who still have a lot of them.

As for T206 commons, it seems like there are cards considered commons that keep going up, first Titus, then Pelty/Horiz. and Doyle, no Nat'l sells for a lot more than commons. The Magee portrait prices are high and I've seen some odd prices recently for some cards considered easy to find like the Elberfeld NY card that someone posted here recently.

I've heard for awhile that Puttman cards are tough to find and the prices seem to reflect that, but I could see that being the next card that takes off. You look on Ebay and there has only been two listed in the last six weeks(one is active and high-priced). If I had an extra, I'd probably list it on Ebay with a high price and see if anyone bites. Eventually, that high price, might not seem high.

I also think people are looking for specific front/back combos that don't have many graded and paying more. Not sure how many people are going after a master set, but it sure seems like some people pay like they are.

[GregMitch34]

Maybe high-graded CJ 15s will bd this year's CJ 14s--the prices on some PSA 8s have really soared lately.

Disappointed that prices on M116s and Ramlys continue to collapse, despite being "cool" cards...

Old Judges seem to keep falling....

[Exhibitman]

The Pelty horizontal has always sold at a premium. Besides general attractiveness of the format and image it is a Jewish player and I think it is a 150-only card.

[z28jd]

Originally Posted by Exhibitman

The Pelty horizontal has always sold at a premium. Besides general attractiveness of the format and image it is a Jewish player and I think it is a 150-only card.

The prices jumped about a year or so ago. I saw the prices starting to go up and looked to grab a couple for the "normal" prices and every one just kept going higher. It leveled off a few months ago and the prices are down a little, but still higher than a couple years ago

[asoriano]

Originally Posted by z28jd

The prices jumped about a year or so ago. I saw the prices starting to go up and looked to grab a couple for the "normal" prices and every one just kept going higher. It leveled off a few months ago and the prices are down a little, but still higher than a couple years ago

These aren't mine, but might explain the jump in price:

[wolf441]

Originally Posted by z28jd

You know if that case was literally on fire now, it would eventually help the prices down the line. Do the right thing for the people who still have a lot of them.

As for T206 commons, it seems like there are cards considered commons that keep going up, first Titus, then Pelty/Horiz. and Doyle, no Nat'l sells for a lot more than commons. The Magee portrait prices are high and I've seen some odd prices recently for some cards considered easy to find like the Elberfeld NY card that someone posted here recently.

I've heard for awhile that Puttman cards are tough to find and the prices seem to reflect that, but I could see that being the next card that takes off. You look on Ebay and there has only been two listed in the last six weeks(one is active and high-priced). If I had an extra, I'd probably list it on Ebay with a high price and see if anyone bites. Eventually, that high price, might not seem high.

I also think people are looking for specific front/back combos that don't have many graded and paying more. Not sure how many people are going after a master set, but it sure seems like some people pay like they are.

+1 on the tougher T206 commons. Another one that seems to be tough lately is Bull Durham...

[z28jd]

Originally Posted by z28jd

You know if that case was literally on fire now, it would eventually help the prices down the line. Do the right thing for the people who still have a lot of them.

As for T206 commons, it seems like there are cards considered commons that keep going up, first Titus, then Pelty/Horiz. and Doyle, no Nat'l sells for a lot more than commons. The Magee portrait prices are high and I've seen some odd prices recently for some cards considered easy to find like the Elberfeld NY card that someone posted here recently.

I've heard for awhile that Puttman cards are tough to find and the prices seem to reflect that, but I could see that being the next card that takes off. You look on Ebay and there has only been two listed in the last six weeks(one is active and high-priced). If I had an extra, I'd probably list it on Ebay with a high price and see if anyone bites. Eventually, that high price, might not seem high.

I also think people are looking for specific front/back combos that don't have many graded and paying more. Not sure how many people are going after a master set, but it sure seems like some people pay like they are.

Since I posted this a week ago, the high-priced Puttman sold within a day. It was a raw copy, sold for $100. A PSA2 was listed with an $88 BIN and sold right away and another ungraded copy sold for $100 in an auction style listing.

Soooo, yeah...that didn't take long