B-Unc Felts - Real???

[packs]

That is true. The names aren't pennants, they are just markers. Maybe two different sets?

[Bridwell]

I have a Chief Meyers felt, with the pennants. I've seen 20-30 of these over the years but don't remember ever seeing any without the pennants at the bottom. Also, the artwork on the player poses seems a bit more detailed on the ones with the pennants.

[birdman42]

These are like the E-91s of felts. All the catcher poses are slightly different but look to be from the same master image. Differences in sleeve wrinkles, etc. Same for the first basemen.

A grand seems like a lot of money for a Heinie Wagner.

Here's my list of the ones I've seen or seen pics of. The ones from this week make 15 different players, plus 3 dupes that are in different colors.

Ainsmith red (FKW, now mine)
Ainsmith green (LegAuc 5/12)
Bender (according to FKW)
Chase purple (eBay 2/15)
Cobb red (FKW)
Herzog green (LegAuc 5/12)
Hooper red (eBay 2/15)
Lajoie blue (LegAuc 5/12)
Lange (acc to Jim Sexton)
Lord blue (LegAuc 5/12)
Matty green (LegAuc 5/12)
Meyers red (Jim Sexton)
McBride olive (eBay 2/15)
McBride red (Leon)
McBride blue (pic per Chris Sexton)
Richie green (Jim Sexton)
Wagner yellow (eBay 2/15)
Wheat (acc to FKW)

Bill

[packs]

That is a pretty good point. There isn't just one Wagner and there's no team identifier.

[matty39]

Here are mine. I also bought the four discussed above. As for cost. the average cost of the eight I already possess was around 250 dollars each. To pay 1100 dollars for arguably two hall of famers and the best first baseman of the deadball era isn't that much of a stretch, especially since three out of the four felts are unique and possibly one of a kind items. As to authenticity, I will have to be the judge of that and will do so when I have them in hand. The seller does have a 14 day return policy. And finally, the rather sarcastic remark that I paid too much for a Heinie, I find that in rather poor taste. If the felt is judged to be authentic, I will always consider him Honus. You however are free to always consider him to be Heinie. Sincerely, jim sexton

[glenv]

Hopefully they are real. If so, the price is pretty good. Here's my Wheat:

b_unc_wheat_ft.jpg

[botport]

One piece of the puzzle that I feel may be of some importance as to the authenticity of these items is the frame. Impossible to draw a conclusion from the frame alone but it does look old to me. If and when the felts are removed from the frame I would be interested to see if there has been some discoloration on the black background. I am curious if the areas not covered by the felts are faded and the areas underneath the felts are darker. I doubt the piece sat in darkness for a hundred years so if they were framed circa 1910 I believe that there would likely be some sun damage. Not a concrete indicator either way, but something that I believe would add to the understanding of these items.

To the buyer, good luck with your purchase.

[birdman42]

Originally Posted by matty39

the rather sarcastic remark that I paid too much for a Heinie, I find that in rather poor taste. If the felt is judged to be authentic, I will always consider him Honus. You however are free to always consider him to be Heinie.

Jim,

Not intended as sarcastic, but a lame attempt at "humor." I, too, believe that is intended to be Honus. That's a fabulous group of unique pieces you've put together.

Bill

[autograf]

Interesting that only on the four most recent do the ends of the pennants not exist. You think you would have other examples out there where the ends don't exist. BUT....if they were being faked, and someone went to the lengths of getting all the details down to that miss, it seems implausible too. I think they're real and just a later or different printing or copycat job. Very neat stuff. Jim Sexton is the king of felts. Glad they made it into his collection.