How Rare is the 1933 Goudey Napoleon Lajoie?

Leon · #1 02-17-2015, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jdeagle

I recently acquired 2 "1933 Goudey" cards - No. 106 Nap Lajoie and No. 144 Babe Ruth. Both are in poor condition, and while there are no visible signs they are reprints (e.g. the backs don't describe the history of the cards in red like the obvious reprints), I don't believe they are original. I can't seem to upload pictures because the file sizes are too large in any format.

Is there an obvious way to determine if the cards are original 1933?

If you want to send them to me at leon@net54baseball.com I will resize and upload them for you. However, you have a better chance of winning the lottery than these being real.

byrone · #2 02-17-2015, 09:12 AM

OT question:

Why was Lajoie even in the set?

How many other retired players appeared in that issue?

slipk1068 · #3 02-17-2015, 11:13 AM

I know there is an Eddie Collins.

ullmandds · #4 02-17-2015, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by slipk1068

I know there is an Eddie Collins.

you are thinking US caramel(32' issue).

btcarfagno · #5 02-17-2015, 12:49 PM

Wasn't there a card number that was skipped for some reason or other and people got all pissed off so Goudey decided to print the Lajoie with the missing number and give it away to those who asked for it? I think it was actually printed in 1934 if I am not mistaken.

Tom C

Baseball Rarities · #6 02-17-2015, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by btcarfagno

Wasn't there a card number that was skipped for some reason or other and people got all pissed off so Goudey decided to print the Lajoie with the missing number and give it away to those who asked for it? I think it was actually printed in 1934 if I am not mistaken.

Tom C

Yes, #106 was intentionally left out by Goudey. Instead, they double printed card #144 of Babe Ruth. To fulfill requests, Goudey went back and printed a #106 (Lajoie) in late 1934.

All of the 1933 and 1934 Goudey sheets had consisted of 24 cards up to that point (6 across and 4 high). To accommodate the 1933 #106 Lajoie card, Goudey printed a 25 card (5 across and 5 high) sheet in 1934 which also included its high-numbered cards.

So, theoretically, just as many 1933 #106 Lajoie cards were produced as other 1934 Goudey high-numbered cards except that the they were not distributed in packs, instead they were pulled aside and given out to those who requested the missing #106 card from 1933.

Baseball Rarities · #7 02-17-2015, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ullmandds

you are thinking US caramel(32' issue).

There is an Eddie Collins in the 1933 Goudey set as well. There are also other retired players, such as Tris Speaker.

ullmandds · #8 02-17-2015, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities

There is an Eddie Collins in the 1933 Goudey set as well. There are also other retired players, such as Tris Speaker.

oh yeah!!!!!

tedzan · #9 02-17-2015, 03:13 PM

I do not understand why this card is referred to as a 1933 GOUDEY ?

It was printed with the 24 high #s in late 1934 at the Goudey factory.

Furthermore, card #106 was not the only missing card in the Spring of 1933 when that series of GOUDEY's were issued. There were 21
other low # cards** that were not issued till the Fall of 1933.

A nasty marketing trick by Goudey in the Spring of 1933 to keep collectors buying wax packs....looking for those missing card numbers.

Uncut 1934 GOUDEY high #'s sheet....includes the rare Lajoie (#106) card

Note
Card #'s 97, 98, 99, 128, 129, and 142 were printed on sheet #9.

Card #'s 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 114, 121, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, and 127 were printed on the last sheet, #10.

TED Z
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ullmandds · #10 02-17-2015, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Baseball Rarities

There is an Eddie Collins in the 1933 Goudey set as well. There are also other retired players, such as Tris Speaker.

Don't know how I forgot that...seeing as a 33 goudey collins was one of my first vintage cards I ever acquired as a kid!

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