LOTG Contest

nolemmings · #1 03-01-2015, 01:48 PM

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If he showed up for spring training and became uphappy with negotiations while there he could have had put in a solid 8 days (if clubs started at similar dates) before calling it quits to force the owner's hand.

Doubtful. According to the book "Honus Wagner: The Life of Baseball's Flying Dutchman", Wagner looked happy standing at the train station to wave off his teammates on their way to Spring Training in 1908. In April, he played in one exhibition game in Clarke's hometown in Indiana, sparking hope he would return, to which he responded that he had promised Clarke "during the winter" that he would play in the game and he merely kept his promise. No mention of having been in Ark. a week or so before leaving.

MVSNYC · #2 03-01-2015, 02:28 PM

My guess.

bmarlowe1 · #3 03-01-2015, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MVSNYC

My guess.

This T206 card actually depicts Howie Camnitz. The unknown guy is not Camnitz.

Jobu · #4 03-01-2015, 02:45 PM

Thanks for posting that Todd, I knew someone here would have access to better info than what I found. If Wagner definitely wasn't at spring training in 1908 then I am 100% on board with this having been 1909 as even 1910 seems like too big of a stretch given Wagner's jersey.

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Originally Posted by nolemmings

Doubtful. According to the book "Honus Wagner: The Life of Baseball's Flying Dutchman", Wagner looked happy standing at the train station to wave off his teammates on their way to Spring Training in 1908. In April, he played in one exhibition game in Clarke's hometown in Indiana, sparking hope he would return, to which he responded that he had promised Clarke "during the winter" that he would play in the game and he merely kept his promise. No mention of having been in Ark. a week or so before leaving.

Al C.risafulli · #5 03-01-2015, 03:08 PM

Hi all:

For what it's worth, I also subscribe to the 1909 theory, for the same reason: Wagner wasn't at Spring Training in 1908. He's likely just wearing an old uniform (it is, after all, Spring Training).

Also for what it's worth, I'm also researching this, trying to find the answer. If I figure it out before you guys do, I'm telling everyone!

-Al

x2drich2000 · #6 03-01-2015, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jobu

Thanks for posting that Todd, I knew someone here would have access to better info than what I found. If Wagner definitely wasn't at spring training in 1908 then I am 100% on board with this having been 1909 as even 1910 seems like too big of a stretch given Wagner's jersey.

I don't think 1910 or 1911 are out of the question, see team picture here I found online from spring 1911 and note the players behinds Wagner appear to have the same 1908/09 jersey (logo on sleeve) as the mystery player while most of the rest have I believe a 1910 jersey (blue button up/collar & no P on front). Also look closely and it does not appear that Wagner has the blue button up/collar, under his sweater suggesting his jersey is older (perhaps 1907? as the collar is grey, not blue)

DJ

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