I reserved comment on this until the lot was over, but......

Brian Van Horn · #1 03-10-2015, 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

It looks good to me. I see what you're seeing, but the angle on the top border matches the angle on the bottom border.

This is where we differ a bit. To me it seems the bottom is more even.

ullmandds · #2 03-10-2015, 11:14 PM

dunno? the top left corner is suspicious...only because the wear doesn't match the other 3 corners...but I still think it's ok.

Jobu · #3 03-10-2015, 11:18 PM

With a PSA 4.5 selling for $65 K in 2013 where do you guys think this one would be if we assume it is trimmed?

EDITED TO ADD: Please don't respond with "$8 k"

itjclarke · #4 03-11-2015, 12:51 AM

Wow! If this is the real deal, what a score for the buyer. Looks like it lasted about 20 min before getting snatched up. I wonder if people are gonna start hounding the seller? I hope not, and hope whoever spotted it receives it.

Even if trimmed, gotta be worth more than $8K if properly listed/promoted. I'll venture a guess-- $12K-$15K+ trimmed, $30K+ if it grades numerically as a 2 or better (pure guesses). It presents really well regardless of whether it grades out numerically, and to my eyes, I also see the bottom slant as being similar to the top.

Jobu · #5 03-11-2015, 07:13 AM

Another question: what does one look for to authenticate one of these cards?

calvindog · #6 03-11-2015, 07:49 AM

Under/over on the number of times it's been rejected by PSA and SGC for being trimmed: 3.

vintagetoppsguy · #7 03-11-2015, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Van Horn

This is where we differ a bit. To me it seems the bottom is more even.

To me, the slant on the bottom is even more noticeable than the slant on top. Look at this picture. I modified the colors a bit to make the card stand out. I think the card is good.

Even if it were trimmed though, I think the seller left money on the table (assuming it's real).

Brian Van Horn · #8 03-11-2015, 09:02 AM

I don't doubt the card is real, but unaltered.......

One clarification. My observation about the top border of the card as opposed to the bottom was based on the front of the card.

conor912 · #9 03-11-2015, 02:49 PM

No comment on it's legitimacy, but I love that he traced the creases with red lines in the scan....I wish more sellers did that.

iwantitiwinit · #10 03-11-2015, 05:28 PM

In my opinion if it were real it would have been graded, trimmed or not. In any case not worth risking 8k on it. If it seems to good to be true it probably is.

ullmandds · #11 03-11-2015, 09:21 PM

Had i known about it...id have gladly paid 8-9k for it!

vintagecpa · #12 03-11-2015, 09:51 PM

It is certainly a roll of the dice. I would tend to lean towards legit. With the sophistication of today's fakes, not worth the chance for $8k.

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