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Old 03-12-2015, 11:25 AM
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This is the only example of a wrapper of Bishop's Chocolate that I have ever encountered that is correct to the 1910 period, there may be other examples out there but I have never seen any. This is exactly the right size for an E99, E100, and E221 (folded) to have been distributed in (scanned larger so you can see the writing). A few of the team cards say they were included in 5-cent packages of Bishop's Chocolate, Nut Bar, and Almond Bar.
Thanks for showing this Rhett, it is very cool. How big is it? It doesn't look like it could hold an E221. E221s come with a fold down the middle. I have only seen 1 E221 that was folded multiple times, and that is currently in Leon's collection. I don't think we can know if that was folded at the factory or afterwards.
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Old 03-12-2015, 11:13 PM
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OK.

1. The postcards are trimmed.
2. The postcards are removed from an album.
3. I'm nuts.

It all evens out:
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Old 03-13-2015, 10:28 PM
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OK.

1. The postcards are trimmed.
2. The postcards are removed from an album.
3. I'm nuts.

It all evens out:
Brian, I had my sights set on that trimmed Wheaties Bancroft. The trimming was supposed to scare you and everyone else away. I guess not. Congrats.
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Old 03-13-2015, 10:39 PM
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Brian, I had my sights set on that trimmed Wheaties Bancroft. The trimming was supposed to scare you and everyone else away. I guess not. Congrats.
Paul,

Thank you.
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Old 03-14-2015, 10:46 AM
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Here are a couple of recent Net54 BST auction wins.

• 1909 Chicago Cubs Flyleaf Page from Season Ticket Book
• 1938 Chicago Cubs Photo of Dizzy Dean & Ira Blustein. This photo is signed by Ira Blustein to "Rip" Collins
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Thanks for showing this Rhett, it is very cool. How big is it? It doesn't look like it could hold an E221. E221s come with a fold down the middle. I have only seen 1 E221 that was folded multiple times, and that is currently in Leon's collection. I don't think we can know if that was folded at the factory or afterwards.
Dan, it isn't large at about 4" long or so and wide enough for an E99/E100 or regular 1910 era tobacco card to have been in the package. I am unsure what this size chocolate would have cost maybe it was only a penny and the larger bars held the team cards, as some of the team cards specify the 5-cent packages had the team cards. Also, the team cards could have been folded once and then wrapped around the bar as well (like bazooka comics) but it has been years since I have held a Bishop's team card and can't really remember how thick they were and if that was possible ( remember them being pretty thin items). I have seen Leon's multi-fold example and it is my thought that someone after getting the card probably folded it that way to stack with their other Bishop's cards (e99/e100). Regardless of whether the team cards were in this size or a larger size it is safe to assume at least the E99/E100 cards came in this size package.
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Hi Rhett, thanks for the information, I hadn't thought of wrapping the team card around the chocolate, that is intriguing. The team cards are about the same thickness as the e99/e100s, slightly thinner than a T206.
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This came Wednesday. From the research I have done (albeit it may not be as thorough as some) it is the only one I could find in existence. Not sure if this pre-dates his e90-1 or the Colgan Chips, but I think this is the earliest known image of Joe Jackson (bottom right corner) on a "card", per se.

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Sweet pickup, Greg...congrats!
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Greg:

I looked for that W601 w/Jackson for a long time with no luck, it's one of my favorites. I don't mean to scare you but there are a lot of repro's out there of W601's, you might want to check yours closely to make sure that it is authentic. Depending on your source for picking it up, you may not need to worry. I have no reason to think that it's not good, no way to tell from a scan though.
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Greg:

I looked for that W601 w/Jackson for a long time with no luck, it's one of my favorites. I don't mean to scare you but there are a lot of repro's out there of W601's, you might want to check yours closely to make sure that it is authentic. Depending on your source for picking it up, you may not need to worry. I have no reason to think that it's not good, no way to tell from a scan though.
Thanks Phil, got it from a very respected board member, I am sure it is fine, but thanks for getting my paranoia to an all time high

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This came Wednesday. From the research I have done (albeit it may not be as thorough as some) it is the only one I could find in existence. Not sure if this pre-dates his e90-1 or the Colgan Chips, but I think this is the earliest known image of Joe Jackson (bottom right corner) on a "card", per se.

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Greg - Beautiful composite! That example is the only 1909 Philadelphia AL team that I have seen. The W601 Team Composites were issued after the end of the season. I would assume that Jackson's E90-1 card was issued sometime during the 1909 season. His Colgan's Chips card was not issued until after he was traded to Cleveland.

None of the Sporting Life Team Composites are easy, but the ones from the later years (1907 on) are extremely difficult to find when compared to their earlier sets (1902-06).

Congrats on a great pickup.
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Thanks Dave
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