Hey, pennant guys

[DixieBaseball]

Originally Posted by ooo-ribay

That's a beauty! 30" x 12"ish? I love their abbreviation for Southern.

Thnx! Yes 30x12ish. The scan is not the best as the color is deep hunter green felt. I think this is late 30s era...

[Bugsy]

Originally Posted by DixieBaseball

Thnx! Yes 30x12ish. The scan is not the best as the color is deep hunter green felt. I think this is late 30s era...

Unfortunately, I am almost 100% certain that pennant is a 1980s Ebbets Field Flannel repro. It isn't actually a repro since there never were originals of these. EFF made large pennants based on the BF3 mini pennant set. I have the St. Paul Saints pennant, but have seen pennants for several of the teams from the American and Southern Assoc and Intl League.

[DixieBaseball]

Originally Posted by Bugsy

Unfortunately, I am almost 100% certain that pennant is a 1980s Ebbets Field Flannel repro. It isn't actually a repro since there never were originals of these. EFF made large pennants based on the BF3 mini pennant set. I have the St. Paul Saints pennant, but have seen pennants for several of the teams from the American and Southern Assoc and Intl League.

Thanks so much to the few folks who emailed me. I had a tiny hunch, but wasn't sure as I own a mini BF Red ball with same logo on pennant. I had a ceiling of $69 and interestingly enough the bid went about to my ceiling. Makes me even wonder if the other bidders were schilling me as well. Pennants are not in my wheelhouse of collecting, but I do own a few and I will say the vintage ones I own are not near this nice! The pin hole was a nice touch to throw the scent off. One thing that did it for me was the smell when I got the pennant. It had no smell. All my vintage stuff has "that smell!" Thanks again - I will be returning this to shipper or full refund.

[DixieBaseball]

I guess Ebbetts reproduced all the Southern Association from 1936-39 Red Ball : I have now seen Pelicans, Barons, and Vols with spot on same image on Large pennant. (Thnx again for sharing your knowledge!) Here are my "original" Vols pennants + Southern Association sets of Mini's (They are same image as Large reproductions):

[ooo-ribay]

Originally Posted by DixieBaseball

Thanks so much to the few folks who emailed me. I had a tiny hunch, but wasn't sure as I own a mini BF Red ball with same logo on pennant. I had a ceiling of $69 and interestingly enough the bid went about to my ceiling. Makes me even wonder if the other bidders were schilling me as well. Pennants are not in my wheelhouse of collecting, but I do own a few and I will say the vintage ones I own are not near this nice! The pin hole was a nice touch to throw the scent off. One thing that did it for me was the smell when I got the pennant. It had no smell. All my vintage stuff has "that smell!" Thanks again - I will be returning this to shipper or full refund.

$69 seems to be around the going rate for those....if it had been a true 1930's pennant, I think you'd have paid in the hundreds of dollars, depending on how much competition you generally have for Nashville stuff.

[Duluth Eskimo]

Kudos to Jeremy for not getting defensive and looking at it constructively. I had not had a chance to email you back when you answered me, but ironically the "smell test" is one of the things I do when evaluating a pennant like this. All of these newer reproduction pennants will have a synthetic smell instead of a natural fiber (IE: cotton) smell to them. Also, when you manipulate the fabric it responds like a synthetic instead of a pressed natural fabric like most of these were made of. If you still cannot tell, you can attempt to pull the fabric apart. The original fabric will pull apart as it is pressed material where synthetic will stretch, but not pull apart. One last thing you can check is the graphics. When you attempt to crease the graphics the vintage graphics will generally crack, whereas most reproductions will bend and not crack. These "tests" can be manipulated by a forger, but it would take significant effort. If you choose to keep the pennant it will still look nice in your collection. If you choose to get a refund, let me know if you need any help with explaining details to the seller. I think they probably knew what they had though. BTW, those other full size pennants you showed are very difficult to find. Good luck with your collection. Jason

[KrenBats]

Recently picked up this 1940's Bills pennant from Keith at AntiqueSportsShop.com. Love the old AAFC pennants.

[Teamgluck]

Originally Posted by KrenBats

Recently picked up this 1940's Bills pennant from Keith at AntiqueSportsShop.com. Love the old AAFC pennants.

outstanding pennant!

[Bugsy]

Originally Posted by DixieBaseball

Thnx! Yes 30x12ish. The scan is not the best as the color is deep hunter green felt. I think this is late 30s era...

Here are three others I found on eBay. I know I have also seen a Columbus Red Birds.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Orleans-...item35e7a09218

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Birmingham-B...item35e7a09249

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Montreal-Roy...item35e7a09239

[Bugsy]

Not a good scan, but here is the BF3 mini pennant of this one.

While Red Ball did issue large pennants are premiums for Major League teams, they did not for any Minor League ones.