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Old 04-01-2015, 05:30 PM
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I used to have this ames pose with a pied fact 42 back...does that mean anything?

Pete

The PIEDMONT 460/42 is not in the mix of AB 460....BL 460....red HINDU....UZIT interrelationship.

However, thanks for your input.


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Old 04-02-2015, 02:57 PM
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Default T206 Ames survey....AB 460....BL 460....red HINDU....UZIT

Here are the T206 backs that we know for certain were printed on the Ames (hands above head) cards......

Cycle 460
El Principe de Gales
Lenox
Old Mill
Piedmont 350, Factory 25
Piedmont 350-460, Factory 25
Piedmont 350-460, Factory 42
Polar Bear
Sovereign 350
Sweet Caporal 350, Factory 25
Sweet Caporal 350, Factory 30
Sweet Caporal 350-460, Factory 25
Sweet Caporal 350-460, Factory 42
Sweet Caporal 350-460, Factory 42 (overprint)
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Regarding this Ames with the American Beauty 460 or the UZIT backs, no one here has yet to produce actual examples
of either of these two backs on this Ames card.

Therefore, until (and if) the above occurs, I expect Ames with a red HINDU will eventually surface....since Ames has been
confirmed with Sweet Caporal 350-460 Factory 42. These two backs have proven to be mutually related.



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Piedmont 350, Factory 30?
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Piedmont 350, Factory 30?
Must be a typo from Ted.
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Piedmont 350, Factory 30?

Tis a typo....I was in a hurry. It has been eliminated from the list.



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Old 04-04-2015, 08:09 AM
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Default T206 Ames survey....AB 460....BL 460....red HINDU....UZIT

CARDTARGET lists 308 - Ames (hands above head) cards sold since 2008.

And, none of them were....AB 460, BL 460, red HINDU or UZIT.

Of course, due to the scarcity of the BL 460, red HINDU or UZIT backs, it is possible that an Ames card may still show up with any of these 3 backs.


I will post several more factors which further convince me that this Ames was NOT printed with an American Beauty 460 back. If this is true, then
most likely Ames will not be found with a UZIT back (AB 460 and UZIT backs are "kissing cousins" regarding T206 cards in the 350/460 series).

Stay tuned....more to come on this subject.


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Old 04-06-2015, 11:01 AM
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Default T206 Ames survey....AB 460....BL 460....red HINDU....UZIT

I guess my premise that the Ames (hands above head) card is a NO-PRINT with the AMERICAN BEAUTY 460 (AB 460) back appears to be valid.
As there have been no responses to this thread to prove otherwise.

Let's consider the following factors:

(1) There are no Ames (AB 460) cards graded by PSA or SGC.

(2) Scot Reader's survey of 100,000+ T206's does not include an Ames (AB 460) card.

(3) David Hall's near complete T206 master set does not include an Ames (AB 460) card.

(4) In my 8-year quest to complete the AB 460 sub-set, I have never seen an Ames (AB 460) card.

(5) Recently, this Ames was confirmed with a SWEET CAPORAL 350-460, Factory 42 (SC 460/42) back.
T206's in the 350-460 series (35 cards) printed with SC 460/42 are mutually exclusive with AB 460 cards.


Furthermore, SC 460/42 cards and red HINDU cards are mutually related. Therefore, I venture to predict that this Ames card
will eventually be discovered with a red HINDU back.


That's it folks.....I rest my case.....but, I'm still open to be proven wrong. So, any inputs on this subject are very appreciated.



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Ted any luck finding Ames AB460? T206 has it listed as confirmed but its out of place on my breakdowns.
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