OT - Patriots Deflate Report

kcohen · #1 05-13-2015, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by yanks12025

You do know the commish didn't decided on the 4 games.

Than who DID decided on the 4 games? Maybe I missed something.

In any case, the suspension IMO will be at a minimum reduced, and most likely overturned.

Frank A · #2 05-13-2015, 10:45 AM

Anyone with a brain knows that if you inflate a ball or anything else in a warm room and then take it out in cold weather it will drop in poundage. There is no one to blame but the refs. this is stupid beyond belief.

packs · #3 05-13-2015, 12:25 PM

Do you really think the deflation was a natural occurrence? Even after knowing that there were text messages between equipment managers specifically related to deflating the footballs to Brady's liking? I'm just curious how you can maintain that the footballs deflated naturally despite explicit text messages that say otherwise from the people who handle equipment.

vintagetoppsguy · #4 05-13-2015, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank A

Anyone with a brain knows that if you inflate a ball or anything else in a warm room and then take it out in cold weather it will drop in poundage.

True. But you have to look at the flip side of it too. If you take the same footballs that you're saying lost pressure due to the cold weather and move them back into a warm room (which was done for testing purposes at half time), the footballs should then gain pressure due to expansion from the warm air. Is this not true? Then how can you blame the weather???

perezfan · #5 05-13-2015, 01:12 PM

Ask "The Deflator"

steve B · #6 05-13-2015, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

True. But you have to look at the flip side of it too. If you take the same footballs that you're saying lost pressure due to the cold weather and move them back into a warm room (which was done for testing purposes at half time), the footballs should then gain pressure due to expansion from the warm air. Is this not true? Then how can you blame the weather???

A few minutes inside won't warm them to room temperature, an hour + outside is enough to cool them completely.

An interesting take here on a few inconsistencies in the report. Not all of the reporters points are valid, but some seem to be. I especially don't think numbers 10 and 3 are valid. The rest seem to make at least some sense.

Steve B
http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2015...ys-suspension/

#7 05-13-2015, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank A

Anyone with a brain knows that if you inflate a ball or anything else in a warm room and then take it out in cold weather it will drop in poundage. There is no one to blame but the refs. this is stupid beyond belief.

Excellent! Now, can you explain the Mpemba Effect?

Tabe · #8 05-15-2015, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kcohen

Than who DID decided on the 4 games? Maybe I missed something.

Troy Vincent handles suspensions.

vintagetoppsguy · #9 07-29-2015, 12:57 PM

This thread summarized:
Patriots are CHEATERS
Brady suspended
Suspension upheld
Justice served
End of story

Peter_Spaeth · #10 07-29-2015, 01:36 PM

My summary: the NFL does not care about real issues like head trauma to players, or domestic violence. Ray Rice two games for beating the crap out of his fianc�e, Tom Brady four for "probably" knowing about taking a little air out of a football. End of story.

packs · #11 07-29-2015, 01:41 PM

Man it drives me nuts that people still don't think he knew about the footballs.

Peter_Spaeth · #12 07-29-2015, 01:47 PM

It drives me nuts that Goodell denies the connection between football and brain injuries despite overwhelming evidence.

bnorth · #13 07-29-2015, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

My summary: the NFL does not care about real issues like head trauma to players, or domestic violence. Ray Rice two games for beating the crap out of his fianc�e, Tom Brady four for "probably" knowing about taking a little air out of a football. End of story.

It drives me nuts that these players make millions of dollars in a very rough sport and then are so stupid/worthless that they try to sue over head trauma.

Also how do you justify comparing Brady and the Cheatriots ruining the integrity of the game with some players off the field actions. Yes they done horrible things but in no way did it affect the outcome of a single game.

Econteachert205 · #14 07-29-2015, 01:56 PM

This is a power struggle between Kraft and goodell. Both are vipers.

Peter_Spaeth · #15 07-29-2015, 01:59 PM

What is this, ancient Rome where we sacrifice people for entertainment value? The NFL could do much much more to protect its players, but chooses to play ostrich. And because they deny the risks many of the young men who take them are certainly not fully informed.

Peter_Spaeth · #16 07-29-2015, 02:03 PM

If a lineman gets away with a hold that springs a back for the winning touchdown, did that "cheating" affect the integrity of the game?

bnorth · #17 07-29-2015, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

What is this, ancient Rome where we sacrifice people for entertainment value? The NFL could do much much more to protect its players, but chooses to play ostrich. And because they deny the risks many of the young men who take them are certainly not fully informed.

LOL Young men not being fully informed. Peter this isn't 1815. They choose to do what they do for the large pay checks and ignore anything bad. It is the American way to blame everything on someone/something else. Would hate for anyone to actually take responsibility for their own actions.

Runscott · #18 08-03-2015, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

What is this, ancient Rome where we sacrifice people for entertainment value?

Yes, I think NFL football equates almost exactly to the gladiator battles in ancient Rome in that it serves the same purpose for the spectators. The main difference is that the deaths and dismemberments were socially acceptable for ancient Romans. Still, NFL players are committing the violence that we aren't allowed to, and that fills some void that many of us need filled. We would probably enjoy it more if we used prison inmates, kept them in cages beneath the stadiums and simply drug them off to the hospital when injured. Like gladiators, we would still have our favorites and they would be given special meals and women if they performed well.

But none of that has anything to do with Deflate-gate. As Jeff mentioned in a main board thread, follow the money to get your answers.

Dan Carson · #19 07-29-2015, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

My summary: the NFL does not care about real issues like head trauma to players, or domestic violence. Ray Rice two games for beating the crap out of his fianc�e, Tom Brady four for "probably" knowing about taking a little air out of a football. End of story.

Are you suggesting Tom Brady beat the tar out of his wife??

nolemmings · #20 07-29-2015, 03:23 PM

Can't wait-- the NFL v. Patriots/Brady in two federal court cases, even though one will likely be stayed or dismissed. Arrogance vs. Incompetence. Buh, buh, buh, buh---I'm lovin' it!

Hope it goes the proverbial 15 rounds with each side throwing haymakers. Air out that dirty laundry --spill those dirty little secrets. Could prove more entertaining than the Republican debates.

packs · #21 07-29-2015, 03:51 PM

No offense to football players but if by now you aren't informed enough about concussions and football related injuries it is because you are either willfully ignorant or there is no reaching you. So I have trouble finding sympathy for those that later experience the side effects of football. Of course I have nothing but sympathy for their families and the results of their careers. But I don't support the lawsuits.

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