T206 Detective Work

[sreader3]

Hi Chris,

Below is the confirmed list of 37 for AB350 No Frame. Besides Nichols (Batting), can you advise which two aren't part of the grouping of 34 that includes Doyle-Reulbach-Konetchy?

Thanks!

Scot

Baker, Frank
Bender, Chief (No Trees)
Burch, Al (Fielding)
Conroy, Wid (With Bat)
Crawford, Sam (With Bat)
Doolan, Mickey (Batting)
Downey, Tom (Batting)
Doyle, Larry (With Bat)
Elberfeld, Kid (Fielding)
Griffith, Clark (Batting)
Jennings, Hughie (Two Hands Showing)
Johnson, Walter (Glove At Chest)
Jordan, Tim (Batting)
Konetchy, Ed (Glove Near Ground)
Lake, Joe (St. Louis - No Ball)
Leifield, Lefty (Batting)
Magee, Sherry (With Bat)
Manning, Rube (Pitching)
McQuillan, George (With Bat)
Mullin, George (With Bat)
Murphy, Danny (Batting)
Nichols, Simon (Batting)
Overall, Orval (Hand At Face Level)
Pelty, Barney (Vertical)
Pfeister, Jake (Throwing)
Reulbach, Ed (No Glove Showing)
Rucker, Nap (Throwing)
Seymour, Cy (Throwing)
Stahl, Jake (Glove Shows)
Steinfeldt, Harry (With Bat)
Street, Gabby (Catching)
Sweeney, Jeff
Wagner, Heinie (Bat On Right Shoulder)
Wilhelm, Kaiser (With Bat)
Willetts, Ed
Willis, Vic (Batting)
Wiltse, Hooks (Pitching)

[jp1216]

Great info Scott & Chris. Thanks for sharing guys!

[atx840]

Hey Scott, here are the 17 shared between the two backs.

No note, the y/b scraps have the Ames where the BL460s have Dougherty (which I believe was swapped out at some point during the 460 print run)

Baker, Frank
Bender, Chief (No Trees)
Doolan, Mickey (Batting)
Downey, Tom (Batting)
Doyle, Larry (With Bat)
Elberfeld, Kid (Fielding)
Griffith, Clark (Batting)
Johnson, Walter (Glove At Chest)
Konetchy, Ed (Glove Near Ground)
Magee, Sherry (With Bat)
Murphy, Danny (Batting)
Reulbach, Ed (No Glove Showing)
Rucker, Nap (Throwing)
Seymour, Cy (Throwing)
Stahl, Jake (Glove Shows)*
Street, Gabby (Catching)
Sweeney, Jeff

These 17 are not found in the AB no frame.

Brown, Mordecai (Chicago On Shirt)
Davis, Harry (Davis On Front)
Donlin, Mike (With Bat)
Dougherty, Patsy (Arm In Air)
Joss, Addie (Hands At Chest)
Kleinow, Red (New York - Catching)
McIntyre, Harry (Brooklyn & Chicago)
O'Leary, Charley (Hands On Knees)
Snodgrass, Fred (Catching)
Willis, Vic (Throwing)
Young, Cy (With Glove)
Chance, Frank (Portrait - Yellow)
Chase, Hal (Portrait - Blue)
Chase, Hal (Black Cap)
Cobb, Ty (Portrait - Red)
Evers, Johnny (Chicago On Shirt-Yellow Sky)
Mathewson, Christy (Dark Cap)

[sreader3]

Thanks Chris. More complicated than I thought! I assumed AB350 NF and the scraps would have 34 of 37 in common. Scot

[sreader3]

Chris,

Is the SC Y/B 460 scrap Kleinow (N.Y. Catching) or (Boston)?

Thanks.

Scot

[atx840]

Boston, only known example and its a pretty low quality scan. I do not have a scan of the Chase dark cap.

Here is a higher quality version of the below layout.

[mrvster]

the sweet cap 460 yellow browns are exactly the same # and same subjects as broadleaf 460

OH BOY!

ames swaped for Dougherty.........they must have been printed concurrently......

DUDE!

this is huge! they are almost the same total population known/ same subjects...

TWINS TO BROADLEAF 460

[tedzan]

Originally Posted by atx840

Boston, only known example and its a pretty low quality scan. I do not have a scan of the Chase dark cap.

Here is a higher quality version of the below layout.

Pardon me if I have misconstrued something here.

OK, I count 33 images in this scan. And, Chase (dark cap) is missing, which would bring the total to 34 subjects. Therefore Chris, why are you assuming that Dougherty
is not the 35th missing subject ?

You are trying to make the number "34" fit into your theory. However, as I see it there could actually be 35 subjects in this group of scraps (which includes Dougherty).


Furthermore, I assume that all these scraps have SWEET CAP 460/30 backs. Is this a correct observation by me ?

If this is true, then there should be 28 more scraps from the 350/460 series that were printed with the SWEET CAP 460/30 backs. Thoughts as to why these additional
28 have not been found ?


TED Z
.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by atx840

Boston, only known example and its a pretty low quality scan. I do not have a scan of the Chase dark cap.

Here is a higher quality version of the below layout.

This card just arrived, so I thought I'd post it with Chris' grid. Doesn't help us locate that Ames, however. I'll keep looking....