E222 AWH and AWA Caramels...AWA is no miss print...

Piratedogcardshows · #1 05-20-2015, 01:13 PM

Very interesting. I have always been fascinated with the E222's. I didnt know 2 more were discovered. Thanks for sharing Leon and I think you are on to something. The Fulton Press site is close to me as is the old ATC warehouse which is now luxury condo's.

ZachS · #2 05-20-2015, 01:23 PM

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Maybe Oscar wasn't interested in the business?

Stumbled across this. Read the last couple paragraphs... it looks like Oscar and Arthur worked for their dad but Wilbur did not.

ZachS · #3 05-20-2015, 01:35 PM

I'm reading this family history and his name was incorrectly listed as William Alexander (his father's name was William Alexander Havens). Here is one of the notations in the history:

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26 Feb 1855 Buena Vista township, Saginaw county, Michigan, The Bible record has him as William Alexander which is incorrect and caused many problem for Dawn and Robin Havens Floyd in finding this man. It appears that he was born on a Monday.

So in at least one official record the Havens was dropped from his name. Maybe this was some kind of joke in regards to that?

A.W.H. - Arthur William Havens

A.W.A. - Arthur William Alexander ???

Or maybe a tribute to his father... a combination of their first and middle names. Arthur William/William Alexander.

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Originally Posted by Leon

No idea if the AWH or AWA came first but to me it would make sense the AWA came first. Then maybe the 3rd brother got upset and the dad said screw it, and made it only his initials? Who knows....

Or maybe the A.W.A. came first and was just a misprint and later corrected to A.W.H.?

Leon · #4 05-20-2015, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ZachS

I'm reading this family history and his name was incorrectly listed as William Alexander (his father's name was William Alexander Havens). Here is one of the notations in the history:

So in at least one official record the Havens was dropped from his name. Maybe this was some kind of joke in regards to that?

A.W.H. - Arthur William Havens

A.W.A. - Arthur William Alexander ???

Or maybe the A.W.A. came first and was just a misprint and later corrected to A.W.H.?

Well, maybe but they don't look like misprints and there are 3 of them. I think it is possible they decided against whatever AWA stood for and changed it. Not a big deal.

edjs · #5 05-20-2015, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon

Well, maybe but they don't look like misprints and there are 3 of them. I think it is possible they decided against whatever AWA stood for and changed it. Not a big deal.

Leon, I don't think he meant it as a misprint, but more as the printer put an "A" at the end instead of putting an "H" at the end, then when it was discovered after the first printing, they fixed it and put an "H." I see what you are saying, it is clearly an "A," but just like with Doyle, N.Y. Natl, printers make errors. It would make sense, because there are more of the A.W.H. than A.W.A. cards out there.

Brian Weisner · #6 05-20-2015, 08:05 PM

Hey Leon,
Everyone knows that Oscar was a grouch....

Hope you are well Brian

PS I love this set... Look forward to seeing you in Chicago...

Leon · #7 05-20-2015, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by edjs

Leon, I don't think he meant it as a misprint, but more as the printer put an "A" at the end instead of putting an "H" at the end, then when it was discovered after the first printing, they fixed it and put an "H." I see what you are saying, it is clearly an "A," but just like with Doyle, N.Y. Natl, printers make errors. It would make sense, because there are more of the A.W.H. than A.W.A. cards out there.

I agree with that...

and Brian, good to hear from you and hope to see you in Chitown....

sreader3 · #8 05-20-2015, 08:19 PM

A fun read for sure.

Can you imagine what a splash it would make if there were a T206 Piedmount back?

Thanks Leon.

Jobu · #9 05-20-2015, 01:44 PM

I have never seen either AWH or AWA. Thanks for posting Leon, definitely not boring!

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