PWCC Certified High End

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by Canofcorn

I have no problem with this. I can't afford to win a PWCC auction anyway.
Seriously though, Brent is such a stand up guy. Very impressed with everything about PWCC. They Are Just trying to do something different from the competition in this case.

Not all of Brent's auctions go high. I recently had a $200 card sell for $50. It is starting to make me think I can do just as good selling on Ebay myself if I am going to get those kind of results on my consignments.

[Orioles1954]

My one word response is "why?"

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Not all of Brent's auctions go high. I recently had a $200 card sell for $50. It is starting to make me think I can do just as good selling on Ebay myself if I am going to get those kind of results on my consignments.

funny lots of buyers say tons of shilling and his auctions sell for record amounts and sellers say sell to low....

[rats60]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

Not all of Brent's auctions go high. I recently had a $200 card sell for $50. It is starting to make me think I can do just as good selling on Ebay myself if I am going to get those kind of results on my consignments.

I guess you didn't get the memo, you are supposed to shill your own auctions.

[bobbyw8469]

We don't do that. We believe in the auction system. However, we have seen alot of cards fall through the cracks. If we lose quite a bit on a card/consignment, we just try to make it up on the buy. Circle of life.

Originally Posted by rats60

I guess you didn't get the memo, you are supposed to shill your own auctions.

[calvindog]

Why is PWCC putting in that certificate?

The answer is the same as the answers to these questions:

Why did PWCC provide misleading scans?

Why is shill bidding rampant in their auctions?

To make money!

[MetsBaseball1973]

This little certificate of theirs is benign, just a way a business is trying to make some of its offerings stand out. In stark contrast the other two things mentioned by CalvinD above, namely juiced scans and shills, are inherently bad.

I have read the PSA boards and find it hysterical how grown men are in an uproar over an eBay baseball card seller adding a piece of paper to some cards he feels look better than the assigned grade---- it's all just opinions. Some guy over there was like, "So my cards without the new PWCC sticker are ugly now?!" Boo hoo!

Personally, I can use my own two God-given eyes just fine to tell me what card is better looking than another. I'll never get why some need a grade or sticker from ANYONE, be it a TPG or PWCC, to tell them what's best. I didn't care for the grade whore attitude when I was a kid in school. I certainly don't like it in card collecting as an adult. But as always, to each his own.

That said, it's Brent's choice to flag by whatever means he wants cards that look way better than the grade. I see no harm in such cards getting their just due and moment in the spotlight, as they are better than some higher graded cards despite having been given a lower technical grade.

[bobbyw8469]

Mets Baseball...I understand your argument. I think the point being made is that ALMOST ALL card collectors can tell what cards look best for their assigned grade. What makes Brent's eyes better than your own?? If you send him a consignment that YOU consider to be high end, and Brent doesn't see it that way, therefore you don't receive the "certificate", how would that make you feel as a consignor? Would you send him more consignments, or cut him off completely? Especially when we see in the future those little extra slips of paper add alot of money to the value of the card? I know that is assuming that is what happens....me personally, I think it will. We can all follow these auctions as they end and determine what type of added multiple these winning "golden tickets" add to the value of the card.

[MetsBaseball1973]

Like many here I personally don't need his sticker, but see zero harm in it. I also don't think it will materially impact the cards that receive it, as the mass of collectors know a card with extra eye appeal, and we have seen such cards command premiums far above the historical average price for their grades before Brent's new sticker.

If I send PWCC a consignment and Brent doesn't deem any of my cards worthy of that little sticker, that is just fine by me. If I thought one of my cards deserved the little sticker and he didn't, again, that's his choice, and I won't and can't impose my will on him.

Just because he's giving his opinion doesn't mean his eyes are better than mine. The same can be said of the grading companies. I don't think their eyes are better than mine, either. Just because someone is giving their opinion, doesn't mean their eyes are better, or anyone receiving the opinion thinks the opinion-giver's eyes are better. That's an assumption being made by some that's logically the problem; let Brent or anyone else give their opinion. Some will hear it/see it and agree, some won't. That's the world.

I am also willing to bet that 9 of 10 times or more the cards that receive this little sticker thing will deserve it. Brent sees enough cards to know when one has eye appeal beyond its grade. And such cards deserve a premium over the VCP average for their grade. Brent acknowledging what anyone's eyes can see with a little sticker seems like a total non-issue, to me at least.

[bosoxphan]

Should just be a this card has nice centering certificate