PWCC Certified High End

[calvindog]

Lots of effort there, Brent; maybe you could have taken some of that time to stop the wide-spread shill bidding that goes on in your auctions.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Lots of effort there, Brent; maybe you could have taken some of that time to stop the wide-spread shill bidding that goes on in your auctions.

Is that constructive criticism?

[TanksAndSpartans]

As someone who has had cards reholdered due to adhesive marks, I'd prefer the stickers be optional.

At a high level, I think there is a trend in the hobby to really value centering to the extent that sometimes I see a lower grade card sell for more than a high grade example and when I look closely, I can often assign centering as the explanation i.e. well centered cards with soft corners can get strong prices. The other thing I notice is that the TPG companies, in my opinion, do not seem to place much weight on a card having a clean surface. I've often seen cards graded 7+ with significant toning/discoloration and similar bright clean cards go unrewarded and wind up with low grades despite having somewhat of a pack fresh look. In theory, in my opinion again, if the TPG companies adjusted for these two issues, the discrepancies between "eye appeal" and "technical grade" would start to go away.

[wonkaticket]

Originally Posted by calvindog

Lots of effort there, Brent; maybe you could have taken some of that time to stop the wide-spread shill bidding that goes on in your auctions.

Jeff, always taking the fun out of things with honesty and reality.

[70ToppsFanatic]

No need for a sticker. The slab's flip # does not change. A simple COA with the slab flip #, PWCC "certification #" and date of sale would eliminate all concerns about residue.

As for the need for this "service", I have no problem with the auctioneer stating that an item appears superior for the grade (in his opinion). I don't think most experienced collectors would take that into account when considering bidding on an item.

However, if I were in Brent's position I think I would be focusing on first addressing other, more commonly mentioned issues and concerns that get raised about his auctions instead of creating a marketing "Good Housekeeping" seal of approval.

[pokerplyr80]

Despite the popular opinion on the forums, it certainly seems this new program is having the desired effect, at least on the 51 bowman mantle. I figured it would close at what it's at now, and there is still a week left.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Despite the popular opinion on the forums, it certainly seems this new program is having the desired effect, at least on the 51 bowman mantle. I figured it would close at what it's at now, and there is still a week left.

I knew it would have that effect. If you have Charles Schwab telling you that a certain stock is good, then of course you are going to listen to him, and many people will buy the stock, pushing it up. These are the same pool of bidders that bid on an Art Shell PSA 10 card that looked like a '6' at best. These are the same pool of bidders that bid ungodly amounts on raw cards that look nowhere near as good in hand and they could care less. Nothing surprises me.

[wheels56]

Personally, I'm going after one of these cards. If I win, I'm going to get one of these exceptionally rare "calibur" error certs slabbed (who cares about the card) and then consign it back to PWCC and pray for the "high end" designation...

Imagine that: A "certified high end" "certified high end" error cert. $$$

[wheels56]

In all seriousness, I'm actually a satisfied PWCC customer. On a relative basis, way better than 90% of what is on eBay. Yep, you pay a premium, but the scans are decent, the descriptions are factual, the communication is responsive and helpful, the shipping is quick and well packaged.

From someone that just got back into the hobby a few years ago, I think that PWCC makes the old "buy the card, not the grade" adage easier to grok and execute against. Is this needed for really experienced collectors? Probably not. But for the rest of us, it really helps fill a void in the marketplace.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469

I knew it would have that effect. If you have Charles Schwab telling you that a certain stock is good, then of course you are going to listen to him, and many people will buy the stock, pushing it up. These are the same pool of bidders that bid on an Art Shell PSA 10 card that looked like a '6' at best. These are the same pool of bidders that bid ungodly amounts on raw cards that look nowhere near as good in hand and they could care less. Nothing surprises me.

and the same pool of bidders that paid 50 for your 150 dollar valued card!..lol