Any fears in selling large $ items on ebay?

Peter_Spaeth · #1 06-19-2015, 11:03 AM

Again speaking in the abstract, a lot of fraudsters are idiots, delusional, arrogant and driven by hubris, etc.

And regarding sales tax, I am aware of instances where there was a complete paper trail, with the buyer requesting an item be shipped to a state that had no sales tax in order to avoid it. I am sure many cases involve cash, but again, ease of detection does not prove to me the offense did not occur.

calvindog · #2 06-19-2015, 11:23 AM

Gary, do you consider Bill Mastro, Doug Allen and John Rogers to be idiots? Because I understand there were some paper trails there too.

Leon · #3 06-19-2015, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by calvindog

Gary, do you consider Bill Mastro, Doug Allen and John Rogers to be idiots? Because I understand there were some paper trails there too.

Unfortunately not as many as there used to be.

calvindog · #4 06-19-2015, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Leon

Unfortunately not as many as there used to be.

Idiots in the hobby? Oh sure there are. Just re-read the PWCC thread. This one too.

chernieto · #5 06-19-2015, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by calvindog

Idiots in the hobby? Oh sure there are. Just re-read the PWCC thread. This one too.

I believe he meant less paper trails.

Leon · #6 06-19-2015, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by chernieto

I believe he meant less paper trails.

correct....as in probable shill bidding evidence that went poof....

steve B · #7 06-19-2015, 12:24 PM

So you guys are saying Lionel Hutz isn't a good attorney? That's odd because he got me a nice settlement from Dr Nick.........

The tax thing does look bad, If there was an actual audit I'm surprised they didn't at least have a "discussion" about how that was worded.

Could a seller offer no tax, but pay the tax using the savings of Ebay fees to offset the taxes? That makes some sense (Not saying that's what was done, just that it's a sensible explanation. ) So if the paypal fees are 10% and sales tax is say 5% the seller collects the payment by check saving the 10% pays the state their 5% and gets a bit of extra profit?

Steve B

glchen · #8 06-19-2015, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by calvindog

Gary, do you consider Bill Mastro, Doug Allen and John Rogers to be idiots? Because I understand there were some paper trails there too.

Mastro and Legendary owned their own auction software, so they probably thought they could hack it when the authorities came calling. This would be similar to a fraudulent business having two sets of books. In PWCC, these are in the hands of a third party (ebay). Regarding the T206 Wagner, Mastro probably thought he was in the clear once PSA authenticated the card as an 8.

calvindog · #9 06-19-2015, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by glchen

Mastro and Legendary owned their own auction software, so they probably thought they could hack it when the authorities came calling. This would be similar to a fraudulent business having two sets of books. In PWCC, these are in the hands of a third party (ebay). Regarding the T206 Wagner, Mastro probably thought he was in the clear once PSA authenticated the card as an 8.

You'd be wrong on all counts here. It's almost uncanny.

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