T206 Ty Cobb Red background Lenox back

[MVSNYC]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Why give up 20 percent to an AH and risk a weak sale, if you can sell it direct?

FWIW- any AH today would offer 0% seller's fee to auction this caliber of a card...he could probably negotiate to get a few % points of buyer's premium. Very common these days with big ticket items.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

FWIW- any AH today would offer 0% seller's fee to auction this caliber of a card...he could probably negotiate to get a few % points of buyer's premium. Very common these days with big ticket items.

the OP point was whatever the BP is with the AH, it could of gone in theory straight into the consignor pocket if no AH was in play....IF he can find a direct sale...if you you cant...saving 20% of 0 is still making zero..

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

the OP point was whatever the BP is with the AH, it could of gone in theory straight into the consignor pocket if no AH was in play....IF he can find a direct sale...if you you cant...saving 20% of 0 is still making zero..

A good foundation in mathematics is essential in any prewar collecting enterprise.

[TUM301]

But they promised, NO MATH !!!!!

[MVSNYC]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

the OP point was whatever the BP is with the AH, it could of gone in theory straight into the consignor pocket if no AH was in play....IF he can find a direct sale...if you you cant...saving 20% of 0 is still making zero..

Not sure I completely agree. Your theory might be right, BUT in your direct sale scenario, there is ONE "bidder". At a top-tier auction, there would most likely be several people with deep pockets pushing each other up, very possibly to a level beyond what a private sale would've achieved.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Or one bidder and the consignor.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

Not sure I completely agree. Your theory might be right, BUT in your direct sale scenario, there is ONE "bidder". At a top-tier auction, there would most likely be several people with deep pockets pushing each other up, very possibly to a level beyond what a private sale would've achieved.

my point was the auction route would be better than direct sale if cant sell the card and have to bump a thread for years with no takers for example

[CMIZ5290]

Please, please Leon....If you have any sympathy, end this stupid thread...thanks

[Bigb13]

You don't have to read it. Just trying to sell my card.

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Bigb13

You don't have to read it. Just trying to sell my card.

Sell it to whom?

[edhans]

Originally Posted by MVSNYC

Not sure I completely agree. Your theory might be right, BUT in your direct sale scenario, there is ONE "bidder". At a top-tier auction, there would most likely be several people with deep pockets pushing each other up, very possibly to a level beyond what a private sale would've achieved.

Your statement may be true for some cards, including perhaps the OP's Cobb. But if a buyer and seller agree to a price on a particular card, they've established a market value for it. If it's sent to an auction house, it takes a third buyer to establish that value. In the case of equally rare and desirable, yet more thinly traded issues, high grade type cards for instance, if that third buyer doesn't materialize, the seller can take a beating.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by edhans

Your statement may be true for some cards, including perhaps the OP's Cobb. But if a buyer and seller agree to a price on a particular card, they've established a market value for it. If it's sent to an auction house, it takes a third buyer to establish that value. In the case of equally rare and desirable, yet more thinly traded issues, high grade type cards for instance, if that third buyer doesn't materialize, the seller can take a beating.

disagree that a market value is based on a direct sale....a market value for how much the buyer wants the card...however the seller can always say to the buyer 'if cant sell ill send it to a consignor' so the buyer may try to make an offer to avoid that from happening which is sort of market price as well..so maybe not disagree..!

in addition, when the seller quotes a price and says 'if not sell will send it to an auction' and still receives no takers...its probably an indication that hes asking more than market price if the potential buyers would rather bid at an auction of the card with competition then a direct sale.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Jake if you reply to this it will be your 20th post in this thread.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Jake if you reply to this it will be your 20th post in this thread.

so my 20th is just behind your 21st?