Altered high grade E93s in Mile High?

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Unless someone is willing to put up a few hundred bucks or more to test out a high profile card I think this is a good place to start.

Exactly.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

Exactly.

It will show you Dick's work but will say nothing about detection IMO. Spend some real money if you are so interested, buy a CJ or some other stained E card, you can always resell it (for a profit if it works out). Not that that would be right.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It will show you Dick's work but will say nothing about detection IMO. Spend some real money if you are so interested, buy a CJ, you can always resell it (for a profit if it works out).

It will say nothing about detection by the for profit card graders but David will get to see the card in hand before and after DT's work. That means much more to me than some underpaid grader who looks at 100's if not 1000's of cards a day as fast as possible hopefully trying their best.

I would like to see more than a super easy stain removal done to a card but am happy with what we will get on David's dime.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Ben, I definitely agree he should at least put a wrinkle into it. Not that the outcome matters to me, what Dick does is to enable fraud whether it's detectable or not. But for the purposes posed by David, his example is too easy.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It will show you Dick's work but will say nothing about detection IMO. Spend some real money if you are so interested, buy a CJ or some other stained E card, you can always resell it (for a profit if it works out).

What difference does it matter, Peter? By PSA's own admission (and it's on their webiste), every card gets scrutinized the same way.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy

What difference does it matter, Peter? By PSA's own admission (and it's on their webiste), every card gets scrutinized the same way.

And neither of us believe that for an instant. Nor should they spend as much time on a 74 Frank Robinson as on an E93 Cobb.

[chaddurbin]

discussions are fun (not really in this case), but i'm against spending any more hobby money toward dick towle business.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

discussions are fun (not really in this case), but i'm against spending any more hobby money toward dick towle business.

Quan, Dick is probably reading the thread and will do it as a promotion. After all David is going to give him free publicity if it works out. And he is already an unpaid advertiser.

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

After all David is going to give him free publicity if it works out.

I'm going to give him free publicity either way. While I say I have never used his service, I have purchased several high grade '56 Topps from him.

Were they cleaned using his process? Who knows and I really don't care - they all graded numerically through SGC and now reside in my registry.

Before someone takes that out of context and asks me the stupid question, “Do you only care that it grades numerically?” the answer is NO. I wouldn’t want a trimmed or restored card whether it graded numerically or not. But since I couldn’t detect anything on the ‘56s, they were sent in for grading and all came back good.