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Old 07-12-2015, 05:00 PM
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Totally. There are even people I wouldn't sell to because I don't like them.
This is interesting. I'm trying to think if I would refuse money because I didn't care for someone...probably yes. Can you elaborate on this...only because it's interesting.
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This is interesting. I'm trying to think if I would refuse money because I didn't care for someone...probably yes. Can you elaborate on this...only because it's interesting.
LOL you make an interesting point Andrew. It is very noble for not accepting money out of the principal of disliking someone though.
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Old 07-12-2015, 07:45 PM
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Yes.

We collectors are frequently a very quiet, sensitive, and immensely passionate bunch of people. We take our collecting very seriously, even if we try to be low-key about the whole thing. I am speaking of collectors in general, because I believe we all share the same passions, and sensitivity to certain attitudes found among assholes in whatever hobby interests us.

Maya Angelou was so right-on when she wrote of all the things we'll remember about a person, how they made us feel will be the main thing we'll always remember, and it will affect everything about how we feel towards that individual.

For better or for worse, how you got a treasured card or complete set--the circumstances, the price, and the whole experience from whom you got that meaningful piece from, will, as the years go by, come back to your mind. It won't just be the card or set. You wish you could separate the card from the jerk, but sometimes you cannot take "the jerk" out of the card, and have to just sell the thing and get another one, to get the asshole's stench removed from the association with the given item. Odious comment, but it's been true for me.

Forgive me for not getting too specific or naming names, much as I might feel the urge to now and then. There's two sides though, remember?

Dealers probably have their own lists of reprehensible buyers whom they feel a genuine headache coming upon them every time they see one those scumbags approach their table. Yep, it can go both ways. No, I've never been a dealer. Took out some ads in SCD back in the day with numerous frantic phone calls. I tried to treat everyone with dignity and respect, and let down the guys who called "too late" as tenderly as I could, 'cause I had been there numerous times before myself. I'm pleased to say that of well over 100 sales, a decent amount were repeat customers; I only had one returned item.

Good topic to cogitate about, but sometimes there's things you really don't want to remember.....

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I don't choose not to buy based on attitude. I have had some guys who have seemed gruff at first and later I saw them or heard from them in some fashion (i.e. e-mail) and they were much more pleasant. The ones I do not buy from did something specifically that I thought was unethical.
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No, but there are a few who I avoid due to their poor grammar
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Old 07-16-2015, 09:31 PM
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Yes, there are those who I will not do business with.
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Old 07-16-2015, 11:16 PM
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Yes - at the top of the list, way above the others, is Mr. Mint.
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I won't do business with people based on looks. If someone has a card I want but appears unkempt or dressed for a backyard BBQ, is out of shape, or looks like a bad yearbook photo from the 70's or 80's I move on.

My monster # is 4.
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Old 07-17-2015, 08:45 AM
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I'm going off on a highjack of this thread, but one thing I've noticed more and more of at show tables is dealers who have hot young women working the table with them. Most of the time they know nothing about baseball cards and are clearly there for window dressing.

This really bugs me when I ask them a question about a card or a price and they have to go ask the actual dealer himself.

Mind you, I don't mind having women at card shows, but if they are working your table they should have some knowledge of the hobby.
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Old 07-17-2015, 11:26 AM
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I won't do business with people based on looks. If someone has a card I want but appears unkempt or dressed for a backyard BBQ, is out of shape, or looks like a bad yearbook photo from the 70's or 80's I move on.

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After some thought . . .

Local to me, there used to be a dealer who fit all of those descriptors. He also ran a monthly card show.

Being friendly with several of the dealers, I found out that some of them had given him the moniker "Smelly Joe"

When asked if they were kidding, one even showed me his contacts on his cell phone, and there he was, entered as . . . "Smelly Joe"!

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I won't do business with people based on looks. If someone has a card I want but appears unkempt or dressed for a backyard BBQ, is out of shape, or looks like a bad yearbook photo from the 70's or 80's I move on.
Greg, your comment leads me to guess that you are able to visit all of the dealers you are willing to do business with at the National in 30 minutes or less!
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Yes - at the top of the list, way above the others, is Mr. Mint.
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Oh, Val, you have put me in a very awkward position. Although I have never had a deal in place with Mr. Mint, the couple of occasions I dealt with him in discussing a possible deal he was very professional and polite. I think he also knew I wasn't going to put up with much crap.
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No, but there are a few who I avoid due to their poor grammar
Yes, there is an AH nearby that I gave up on due to a very rude and nasty attitude by one subordinate. The boss is a great guy but if he hasn't figured her out yet....I will direct my modest funds elsewhere, like Sterling, where nobody yells at you but rather converses pleasantly. I have not even looked at The offending Ah's offerings since the bad phone call. And will continue to focus elsewhere.
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Old 07-17-2015, 04:38 PM
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Just two that I can think of. One was deeply involved in putting off-grade cards through a paper press and trimming them back down to size, eliminating slightly worn corners in the process, and making the altered raw cards appear to be NrMt-Mt or better. They would consequently measure correctly, but the edges revealed a much cleaner cut than original cards ever possessed. Most of this BS was eliminated when TPG began to loom very, very large on the scene in the early to mid-nineties, but the same seller now "appears" to be selling legitimate PSA-graded cards. I don't think a leopard changes his spots, however. I wouldn't put it past this dealer to be opening slabs and inserting altered cards in place of the originals, or buying from the Mexican scammer who was a prime topic of discussion with regard to his counterfeiting PSA holders and slips several months ago on this forum.

I don't even know if the other (local) dealer is still in business. His specialty was pricing Ex+ to ExMt cards at NrMt-Mt prices, then getting angry when you made an offer more akin to the real value of the card in its actual grade. This kind of jerk tends to put himself out of business as collectors become more knowledgeable, though sometimes that knowledge is expensive.

May your knowledge increase substantially before those lacking in morals or integrity get a chance to get their hands on your money!

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At card shows, unless I am unbelieveably interested in a particular item, I usually pass right by tables with cards that are NOT priced.
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At card shows, unless I am unbelieveably interested in a particular item, I usually pass right by tables with cards that are NOT priced.
+1 I stay far away. Some, not all, of them will test you to see if you know how much the card is worth and then state a price. *
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I had ignored this thread until now but I simply had to see if the grammar nazis were doing their job. I cringe every time I log into this site and see this horrible thread title.

Please fix it!!! It's such an eye-sore!!
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I had ignored this thread until now but I simply had to see if the grammar nazis were doing their job. I cringe every time I log into this site and see this horrible thread title.

Please fix it!!! Anyone that lands on the front page will think we are ALL idiots!
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