SGC T206s....It needs to be brought up, it's scary, very scary if you are a collector

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by cincyredlegs

I am confused with this comment:

"SGC T206s....It needs to be brought up, it's scary, very scary if you are a collector"

Shouldn't it say "it's scary if you are an "investor"?

I personally am a collector, first and foremost. I am not interested in the registry game nor whether my collection is going to triple in price in the next 5 years. Therefore, I am more than happy to buy a nicely centered, crease free SGC 40 T206 at a fraction of the price of a PSA 4. Just means I can finish my set faster.

Mark

I agree...for a collector SGCs are terrific if not worried about re-sale....

[yanks4]

I still am a SGC guy because of the flips, and service and the arrogance of PSA over the years,.... but I to am wondering why they refuse to market themselves better .....I think the registry is ugly and not a real improvement as was their first new flip....they seriously need a sharp graphic guy or gal and someone that's knows how to market themselves ..I still think there is a heck of an opportunity for someone who is capitalized to partner or purchase the brand....I hope it happens ...the sooner the better....

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by yanks4

I still am a SGC guy because of the flips, and service and the arrogance of PSA over the years,.... but I to am wondering why they refuse to market themselves better .....I think the registry is ugly and not a real improvement as was their first new flip....they seriously need a sharp graphic guy or gal and someone that's knows how to market themselves ..I still think there is a heck of an opportunity for someone who is capitalized to partner or purchase the brand....I hope it happens ...the sooner the better....

Perhaps they are content with the business as it is.

[Jay Wolt]

Will SGC's upcoming move from Jersey to Fla be a good thing, bad thing or no big deal?

[Orioles1954]

Originally Posted by Jay Wolt

Will SGC's upcoming move from Jersey to Fla be a good thing, bad thing or no big deal?

SGC is moving to Florida?

[Jay Wolt]

Originally Posted by Orioles1954

SGC is moving to Florida?

That's what I heard awhile ago.
The owner, Dave Forman lives in Fla so it makes sense for his company to be there too.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Jay Wolt

That's what I heard awhile ago.
The owner, Dave Forman lives in Fla so it makes sense for his company to be there too.

Certainly more convenient for when he needs to go into the office.

[vintagebb2014]

As a long time collector that has used SGC exclusively for grading pre-war, their turnaround times have been very disappointing lately and it seems that their consistency has slipped. What other business can you think of that you pay for a 10 day turn around that takes 20+ days? It appears that they may need a shake up at SGC before they loose a lot of loyal customers. I renewed my PSA membership this week as I plan to slowly begin the process of crossing over to PSA just for the reason that Kevin brought up. I am a true collector first and foremost; however, I would like the greatest return once I choose to sell off my collection.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

I agree...for a collector SGCs are terrific if not worried about re-sale....

Why are SGC cards losing value? Sale price really means nothing if you do not account for purchase price.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Why are SGC cards losing value? Sale price really means nothing if you do not account for purchase price.

true purchase price counts..if both cards are a '3' and the sgc is bought for 100 and the psa is bought for 200....and they sell for the same amounts...than neither card lost value

i think the discussion is when you look at sales prices for a '3'...the PSAs sell for more than the SGCs ..

whats the issue is i think people that have kept cars for a number of years back when the 3's were being sold at the same price....now are attempting to sell the card and they are seeing that the 3s from the SGC don't sell in general as much as the 3's for PSA....

CMIZE that started the thread wasn't talking about new purchases..he is concerned about purchases he made long ago and how his SGC cards appear to have lost their value from when he bought it.....so that's what i believe people mean about PSA keeping their value..

if you look at B/S/T you will see sellers wanting the same money for their SGC as the PSA counterpart and its just not happening more and more...they have to sell them for less........but yes..now that it does appears that SGCS are being bought for less..they aren't losing value as they may of 4 years ago when they were being bought for the same as their counterparts....

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Why are SGC cards losing value? Sale price really means nothing if you do not account for purchase price.

T206 SGC 84 Ed Walsh,very tough Hofer, well centered (looked narrow to me), last night went for $1026 on Ebay. Enough said....

[ullmandds]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

T206 SGC 84 Ed Walsh,very tough Hofer, well centered (looked narrow to me), last night went for $1026 on Ebay. Enough said....

Kevin you should've been a lawyer!

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by ullmandds

Kevin you should've been a lawyer!

I guess I should have said, looks narrow to me, however, despite the grade..

[Sophiedog]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

T206 SGC 84 Ed Walsh,very tough Hofer, well centered (looked narrow to me), last night went for $1026 on Ebay. Enough said....

I agree 100%
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-Pied...p2047675.l2557

[the 'stache]

Originally Posted by Sophiedog

I agree 100%
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-Pied...p2047675.l2557

That's one of my favorite cards in the set, and a beautiful example.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by Sophiedog

I agree 100%
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1909-11-Pied...p2047675.l2557

With the staining on the back from scrapbook glue I'd say that's a weak 7. A nice card, but I don't think it should get a 7. (Of course, if it was PSA it would be 7ST )

Steve B

[rats60]

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

T206 SGC 84 Ed Walsh,very tough Hofer, well centered (looked narrow to me), last night went for $1026 on Ebay. Enough said....

I would be more concerned with the looks narrow than the price falling between a psa 7 and 6, which is where I would expect it to sell. I think more people are buying cards and not holders. I pass on cards in the grade I want all the time because I don't like the card.

[e107collector]

Does anyone know that if I joined the PSA collector's club, am I able to use my (6) free grading vouchers all for crossover reviews? Each of the cards are in the less than $499 declared value category.

Any info is appreciated.

Thanks,

Tony

[glchen]

Originally Posted by e107collector

Does anyone know that if I joined the PSA collector's club, am I able to use my (6) free grading vouchers all for crossover reviews? Each of the cards are in the less than $499 declared value category.

Any info is appreciated.

Thanks,

Tony

Yes, you can. I believe the only caveat is that they must all be crossovers, however. That is, you can't put a PSA card in this submission for a review also along with SGC, Beckett cards. They *may* also need to be the same size, e.g., no mixing of postcard sized cards with standard size ones. However, I think they are somewhat lenient here when using the voucher.

[e107collector]

Originally Posted by glchen

Yes, you can. I believe the only caveat is that they must all be crossovers, however. That is, you can't put a PSA card in this submission for a review also along with SGC, Beckett cards. They *may* also need to be the same size, e.g., no mixing of postcard sized cards with standard size ones. However, I think they are somewhat lenient here when using the voucher.

Gary,

Thanks for the info and quick response. I'll post the results when I get my order back. They are in BGS and SGC slabs currently.

Tony

[brewing]

Originally Posted by e107collector

Does anyone know that if I joined the PSA collector's club, am I able to use my (6) free grading vouchers all for crossover reviews? Each of the cards are in the less than $499 declared value category.



Any info is appreciated.



Thanks,



Tony

You can break it up between crossovers and raw subs. I've done it and I'm doing it again. The caveat is you have to pay shipping for 2 separate orders. So account for it.