Greatest of all time

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Gwynn is nowhere close to Bonds, IMO. Steroids aside, Bonds is one of the best five players of all time, easily. Gwynn might be top 25. How on earth is power overrated in baseball?? And you could certainly make a strong argument that Clemens is the best ever.

Peter I think you are highly overrating Gwynn. There is no way he is top 25, maybe top 50 maybe.

Clemens IS the best pitcher ever. I am very biased though.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by bnorth

Peter I think you are highly overrating Gwynn. There is no way he is top 25, maybe top 50 maybe.

Clemens IS the best pitcher ever. I am very biased though.

It's hard to argue with 7 Cy Youngs and 350 plus wins in an era of pitching every fifth day.

[oldjudge]

"i'm partial to lefties like myself: ruth, bonds, teddy ballgame, cobb, mays."

Perhaps Mays wiped with his left hand, but he batted righty.

[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by oldjudge

"i'm partial to lefties like myself: ruth, bonds, teddy ballgame, cobb, mays."

Perhaps Mays wiped with his left hand, but he batted righty.

yes guys, i realize mays is a righty. some probably don't agree with my bonds and williams choices so i just wanna preface that.

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

It's hard to argue with 7 Cy Youngs and 350 plus wins in an era of pitching every fifth day.

He beats the guy with 417 wins and 0 Cy Young awards

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Paul S

He beats the guy with 417 wins and 0 Cy Young awards

Maybe not, but it's arguable. I think Johnson, Alexander, Grove or Clemens would be a defensible choice. Young too, maybe.

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Maybe not, but it's arguable. I think Johnson, Alexander, Grove or Clemens would be a defensible choice. Young too, maybe.

Alexander is #5 for me. I think I could make a decent case for any of the others, but I can't see a way to move Alexander to #1. (I have Young a very close second to Johnson.)