Greatest of all time

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Bonds was already the best player in baseball before he started using.

And can you identify the year he started "using" ??? If that's the case then McGwire and Sosa are HOF players.......... They're both sure more likeable like most people on this forum other than you haha.

Seriously though backing Bonds is like backing G@y-Ro1d up..........

[darwinbulldog]

Originally Posted by Joshchisox08

And can you identify the year he started "using" ??? If that's the case then McGwire and Sosa are HOF players.......... They're both sure more likeable like most people on this forum other than you haha.

Seriously though backing Bonds is like backing G@y-Ro1d up..........

So far, Josh does not approve of:

1. Steroid users with good home run totals
2. Peter
3. The gays

Anyone else we should add?

[Joshchisox08]

Originally Posted by darwinbulldog

So far, Josh does not approve of:

1. Steroid users with good home run totals
2. Peter
3. The gays

Anyone else we should add?

1. Not necessarily true. I like McGwire and like Sosa for what they did for MLB in 1998 and baseball crapped all over them after they reaped the benefits of what they did for the sport.

2. Also not true what's wrong with some snappy comments to keep an argument going ?????? ...........

3. Where did I say that ????? It's a common nickname I've heard from him. I'm from New England so there's lots of A-Roid bashers you hear quite a bit of different nicknames from him.

Don't jump to assumptions Glenn

[CobbvLajoie1910]

Originally Posted by Joshchisox08

Seriously though backing Bonds is like backing G@y-Ro1d up..........

Josh. In a "community" (which n54 is), I would suggest treading lightly with your homophobic inferences; you never know who is reading your off-the-cuff, mindless garbage.

Go play in traffic, man.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by CobbvLajoie1910

Josh. In a "community" (which n54 is), I would suggest treading lightly with your homophobic inferences; you never know who is reading your off-the-cuff, mindless garbage.

Go play in traffic, man.

A-Rod if all the stats counts is going to be top of the list. He obliterated the SS numbers which was his primary position....who has the second most homers from a primary SS position...I can look it up of course....but most of these big homer guys are 1B or OF...very few from Middle Infield

[GehrigFan]

T-1st Lou Gehrig
T-1st Babe Ruth
3rd Ty Cobb
T-4th Willie Mays
T-4th Hank Aaron
6th Ted Williams

1st Walter Johnson
2nd Cy Young
3rd Grover Alexander
4th Nolan Ryan
5th Lefty Grove

[AddieJoss]

There seems to be a hitters biased towards the 30s-60s. And that may be justified. I would submit that for modern players Tony Gwynn should be considered. I do not think he had anything to do with steroids and has the highest career batting average of all "modern" players.
And then an old timer, who as I read stories was amazing is Ed Delhanty. He averages more career hits per year, more runs per year, and more HRs per year than Ty Cobb. He died whole still in his prime but did play 16 years.
Just a couple guys from a different era than Mays/mantle/etc. Who are not HR guys but who hit for average.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

A-Rod if all the stats counts is going to be top of the list. He obliterated the SS numbers which was his primary position....who has the second most homers from a primary SS position...I can look it up of course....but most of these big homer guys are 1B or OF...very few from Middle Infield

Banks, although half of his career was at first. Ripken had some decent HR numbers for a shortstop.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Banks, although half of his career was at first. Ripken had some decent HR numbers for a shortstop.

right whats decent for a SS for total home runs...and then compare to A-Rod..Doesn't A-Rod obliterate that total....when talking all time great.. I would look for obliteration..not someone who has the edge...

[Peter_Spaeth]

Yes but recall ARod only played SS through 2003. I think Ripken had more at the position, actually.

Yup, I am right.

Most
By A Shortstop
AL
Cal Ripken, Jr.

Baltimore

345

NL
Ernie Banks

Chicago

277

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Joshchisox08

And can you identify the year he started "using" ??? If that's the case then McGwire and Sosa are HOF players.......... They're both sure more likeable like most people on this forum other than you haha.

Seriously though backing Bonds is like backing G@y-Ro1d up..........

I think consensus is 1999, he felt underappreciated after the McGwire Sosa year. If you look at his stats up to that point there is no question he was already a first ballot HOFer.