WTB 1951 Bowman Mickey Mantle

1952boyntoncollector · #1 07-25-2015, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

Crease, wrinkle, whatever you want to call it. Running through Mick's elbow, lower left corner of the card. You guys were talking about the PSA 4 currently on Memory Lane, right?

correct..i didn't notice it..card will still go for over $4000

pokerplyr80 · #2 07-25-2015, 08:10 PM

I don't doubt that. If I had to guess I'd still say 5k with the buyer's premium. I just meant I wouldn't say it's nicer than the 5 with the wrinkle and wax stain, despite the awesome centering.

I would pay 4k for it right now if I could.

1952boyntoncollector · #3 07-25-2015, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I don't doubt that. If I had to guess I'd still say 5k with the buyer's premium. I just meant I wouldn't say it's nicer than the 5 with the wrinkle and wax stain, despite the awesome centering.

I would pay 4k for it right now if I could.

I agree with you that the 5 would be better than the 4 based on those issues..

MattyC · #4 07-26-2015, 11:41 AM

I'd pay more for and prefer the 4 over the 5-- diff'rent strokes, as they say.

1952boyntoncollector · #5 07-26-2015, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MattyC

I'd pay more for and prefer the 4 over the 5-- diff'rent strokes, as they say.

easy to say you will do that or others that say that kind of thing..but lets see you win a 4 like that for more than the 5 goes for in any type of auction for 4000 dollar plus cards ..talk is cheap...easy to say..ill believe it when I see it...though im not doubting you MattyC I know you have nice centered cards..i sort of talking in general to all the buy the card not the holder guys...I think resale value plays a bigger role than people say...but if someone wins this 51 mantle for a higher price (thus they actually paid and not 'will pay ) than the psa 5 by all means that will back up what they say..

MattyC · #6 07-26-2015, 12:11 PM

For what it's worth, the, "Buy the card, not the holder," mantra does serve one very well on resale as well. Time and again I paid premiums for lower grade cards with great eye appeal that some thought were crazy at the time, only to do very well on those occasions when I sold some of those very pieces to go after a pricier card. There are many ways to be happy as both a collector and seller, for us all

I'd add that if one intends to hold a card for a long time, or as I've heard some say a long "investment horizon," one can feel free to pay more for a 4 that looks better to their own personal eye than a 5 which would have cost them less, since they can always hold their preferred 4 long enough and enjoy it during that time. Bottom line, I think so much of collectors' discussions hinges on where the discussion participants each fall on the collector versus investor spectrum.

That said, were I in the market for that 4, I would set my bid, and if it turned out to be higher than the 5 sold for, I would not care at all-- I took home the one I wanted at the price I wanted to pay, is all that matters. I have done it before (with many cards in my collection, and some well north of the price mark you referenced) and— if I love a card— I will definitely do it again,

When I love a card, there really is no helping me, LOL!

pokerplyr80 · #7 07-26-2015, 12:23 PM

Were it not for that crease I think the 4 in this case would go for more than the 5. Centering and Eye appeal is at a premium and people are willing to pay for it.

Here's a good example from a couple of auctions I watched last week:

SGC 3 52 Mantle off center sold for about 13.5k with buyer's premium

http://www.gregbussineau.com/LotDeta...entoryid=12793

SGC 1.5 52 Mantle Centered 10.3k

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1952-Topps-M...p2047675.l2557

I'm sure we'd all agree there's normally at lot more than a 3k difference in the value of this card in a 1.5 vs a 3. I actually thought the SGC 3 would sell for less than it did.

MattyC · #8 07-26-2015, 12:29 PM

Just look at the-- so far-- enormous premium being paid for the Goldin Auctions PSA 8 1952 Topps Mantle versus the Heritage example. 300k versus 240k. The Goldin 8 destroys the Heritage 8, for my own money. But another may see differently. Will be interesting to see if that disparity holds up at Hammer Time.

CW · #9 07-26-2015, 01:38 PM

Fantastic Mick, Tony!

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Originally Posted by pokerplyr80

I actually thought the SGC 3 would sell for less than it did.

I think it did. Looking at the auction page it appears the $11,400 includes the BP. Interesting comparison between the two cards, though.

Although I doubt any bidders were fooled, I thought this line was a bit misleading in the description:

"...the offered example is highlighted by a crystal-clear portrait of "The Mick" that is boldly colored and unblemished."

Unblemished?

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